[X] My Assistant

[CanRay]

A single sentence, "At least I got rid of that damned metal arm." would not have been difficult, would have fit his personal narrative style, and stopped all questions by fans.

[Platinum]

Well to start with, I was kinda talking about your tone. But since your own argument right there doesn't hold its own weight...

I get what you're trying to say. You're saying that ever since Nigel's passed, Shadowrun hasn't been the same for you. I think you'd find people with similar attitudes here on Dumpshock. Myself, I think that several great things and a few great teams have come since then. But hey, that's opinions.

What I have an issue with, and what I commented on, was that your tone came across as, "...and those fuckers have been fucking his corpse since." Which is supported by the fact that you linked to a video of Tom Green humping a moose.

I mean, really? Can't we progress past going to the nth degree just to make a point around here?

"Tone" on the internet is always subjective. As for my message, yes, I think there has been some necrophilia. If you have an issue with that, well ... chalk it up to opinions.

My point is that there hasn't really been any innovation in Shadowrun since Nigel passed away. You will most likely present the argument that the switch of dice mechanic, and adding two stats was innovation, I don't. I see it as a departure from Shadowrun, and it became a new game, post humanus magica emo, which focused and magnified elements of Shadowrun that already existed.

I have a huge amount of respect for some people, like Robert Derie. I think Shadowrun would have flourished under his hand, maintaining the grit, and come up with something as next gen as Shadowtech was to Shadowrun way back in the day. Alas we have a number of partial books coming out that are "more of the same old thing".

[CanRay]

Then why are you here?

Just wondering. Been a long time since Nigel Findley passed. *Pours a bottle on the curb*

[Platinum]

Then why are you here?

Glean some pearls out of conversations. Learn about new things, ie Dresden Universe.

[CanRay]

Well, like the statement in Street Legends...

When Dumpshock doesn't endorse how you should behave with authors of Shadowrun, it's time to think again.

At least keep the dead moose humping to a minimum. There's Canadians here.

[Dreadlord]

I have all but about two of the original novels in paperback, and about every two or three years I pull them down and read them all, which is a huge mess of about 30 books scattered around my house, since I tend to read at least two books at a time (yeah, I am a bookworm!). It sure would be nice if I could have them all on my tablet in digital form, so I could carry them ALL around with me, and preserve the condition of my paperbacks better. Not to mention maybe pick up the two I am missing!

[Troyminator]

I finished "Shadowplay" today. My family wanted all my attention and it was all I could do not to say something like "Stop that whiney drek and man up! If you keep bothering me, I will fragging kick your hoop! Slot and run, you fragging slitch!" Yeah, I'm taking my Nigel Findley omnibus a bit too serious. <hold up thumb and forefinger a bit apart and then keeps widening them. Has to take one cyberarm off and set it by the front door, then run to the other side of the doss to show how seriously> (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[CanRay]

I just picked up Shadowplay in E-Format. I just cannot find it anywhere in the city at all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[Critias]

It seems sad as Hell to me that a thread mourning the death of Mr. Findley -- of all threads, of all topics -- has to degenerate into a bitch-fest about the current state of the game, just like every other conversation around here. I understand that folks have opinions, very strong opinions, sometimes, but it'd be nice if a thread trying to honor one of Shadowrun's greats could stay focused on him. There are plenty of other threads lying around for folks to gripe about how things are going right now, couldn't we have left Nigel just one thread?

[ravensmuse]

It seems sad as Hell to me that a thread mourning the death of Mr. Findley -- of all threads, of all topics -- has to degenerate into a bitch-fest about the current state of the game, just like every other conversation around here. I understand that folks have opinions, very strong opinions, sometimes, but it'd be nice if a thread trying to honor one of Shadowrun's greats could stay focused on him. There are plenty of other threads lying around for folks to gripe about how things are going right now, couldn't we have left Nigel just one thread?

Basically what I was trying to say.

[CanRay]

I'd pour another 40 on the curb, but I ran out.

[Platinum]

It seems sad as Hell to me that a thread mourning the death of Mr. Findley -- of all threads, of all topics -- has to degenerate into a bitch-fest about the current state of the game, just like every other conversation around here. I understand that folks have opinions, very strong opinions, sometimes, but it'd be nice if a thread trying to honor one of Shadowrun's greats could stay focused on him. There are plenty of other threads lying around for folks to gripe about how things are going right now, couldn't we have left Nigel just one thread?

No one is bitching. Ignore it and then we can stay focused.


I was just thinking, can you imagine the horror factor of Shadowrun could be? His Van Ritchen's guide to Vampires is my favorite RPG book. It was so insightful and lead to incredible story telling with vampire villains. Some killer guides like that would really make things darker. Man, what I would give to see his idea journals.

[Troyminator]

I just started "House of the Sun" at the gym today. I thought the dedication was very well done and very appropriate to this thread.

"In Memory of Nigel Findley. 22 July 1959-19 February 1995"

"Nigel was in the final stages of proofing this novel when he passed away on February 19, 1995. This novel, like all the others he wrote, exhibits his incredible creativity to take the unkown and transform it into something believeable and enjoyable. House of the Sun has special significance to the life of Nigel because Dirk Montgomery was his favorite character and Hawaii was his favorit place. To put Dirk in turmoil again was a challange Nigel embraced with his usual flair, wild imagination, and persuit of excellence. As I know the pleasure he derived from writing this novel, I dedicate it to Nigel's incredible gift of writing, to his enthusiasm for for living, and to the wonderful man he was." - Holly Langland, Friend and Partner

<pours Crown Royal on the curb>

All spelling and gramatical mistakes are mine

[CanRay]

I remember getting House Of The Sun the day it was released back home, and crying when I read that.

I'd only read three of his works by then, but had known by then that he was one of the greats...

Reading that again, even a copy, well... I gotta go have a lie down now.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I remember getting House Of The Sun the day it was released back home, and crying when I read that.

I'd only read three of his works by then, but had known by then that he was one of the greats...

Reading that again, even a copy, well... I gotta go have a lie down now.

Indeed. I started re-reading Shadowplay today... Definitely one of the greats. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[SecGuard]

The link isn't working (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[tete]

I think Shadowrun would have flourished under his hand, maintaining the grit, and come up with something as next gen as Shadowtech was to Shadowrun way back in the day. Alas we have a number of partial books coming out that are "more of the same old thing".

Well who knows what he would have done as working on Vampire/Werewolf, D&D, & Shadowrun keeps you pretty busy I'm sure. I don't think big D would be dead, at leased not as early as he was killed off, but the rest of it who knows. Its not like he came up with the horrors or anything he just saw an idea he liked and dialed it up to 11. If he had found a cat girl he liked we might all be cursing him right now or we might have become fans of cat girls which may be even scarier.

[CanRay]

Maybe he could have had Striper show up in one of the novels?

She's like a cat girl... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[raben-aas]

2XS and Changeling. Still somewhat of the main reason to stick or come back to Shadowrun.

[Troyminator]

I remember getting House Of The Sun the day it was released back home, and crying when I read that.

I'd only read three of his works by then, but had known by then that he was one of the greats...

Reading that again, even a copy, well... I gotta go have a lie down now.

Yeah, I got misty-eyed when I was typing it.