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[Miri]

That is not what I see, however (nor what is described), I see a Space Station Suit like what our Astronauts wear. Now, you are correct that that is what is worn underneath their Space Walk Suit. But, I would not call it something you would wear underneath BDU's. Sorry, it is already like a set of BDU's in that they have multiple cargo pockets, etc.

Well the problem with that is, a Spacesuit can not be worn over any other type of armor. So no running around in a HEL suit and if you have to go EV slipping into a Spacesuit. A HEL suit is lightweight enough to be worn on earth comfortably.

Edit to add: The last thing you want in a weightless environment is for a loose fold of cloth to get caught on something. So I see a HEL suit as a skin tight outfit much like the Form Fitting stuff, but too thick to be worn under any other armor much like the FF stuff can be.

[Neraph]

That is not what I see, however (nor what is described), I see a Space Station Suit like what our Astronauts wear. Now, you are correct that that is what is worn underneath their Space Walk Suit. But, I would not call it something you would wear underneath BDU's. Sorry, it is already like a set of BDU's in that they have multiple cargo pockets, etc.

You're simply not being consistant. This is hardly the definition of "thin, tight-fitting." Maybe your jeans are tight-fitting, but are they also thin? And if so, can you wear them underneath baggy jeans? I bet you can. In fact, I know you can - in New Jersey and when I went snowboarding in Colorado I would often wear 2 sets of sweats with jeans over them and 3+ pairs of socks.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

You're simply not being consistant. This is hardly the definition of "thin, tight-fitting." Maybe your jeans are tight-fitting, but are they also thin? And if so, can you wear them underneath baggy jeans? I bet you can. In fact, I know you can - in New Jersey and when I went snowboarding in Colorado I would often wear 2 sets of sweats with jeans over them and 3+ pairs of socks.

And THAT suit is not what we are talking about, now are we. Look at what is worn on the Space Station, and you will see exactly what the HEL suit is being described as.

And I bet you were at least partly encumbered... In Fact, I would almost guarantee it.

[Neraph]

You are in error. They wear T-shirts, shorts, and " long- or short-sleeve polo shirts or rugby shirts, as well as sweaters and pullovers," hardly things that would keep you safe in the vaccum of space.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

You are in error. They wear T-shirts, shorts, and " long- or short-sleeve polo shirts or rugby shirts, as well as sweaters and pullovers," hardly things that would keep you safe in the vaccum of space.

Things may have changed since the last time I saw Station Operations, but What the Hel Suit is described as is what I remember seeing them wearing. The Suit for EVA is not it. I will look to see if I can find the relevant pic that I remember and strive to link it somehow, as I am Link Deficient. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

AS for your T-Shirts and Pullovers. Not very protective in Vacuum are they.

Okay... It is called a Partial Pressure Suit. I would actually call it a Flight Suit, personally, but there you go. The pictures I found are for Vehicular Operations, and are capable of minimal protection against Vacuum, as long as the helmet is in place. Hmmm. Seems exactly what the HEL suit is described as. And it not something that you put underneath other clothes. You want Form Fitting Armor, Wear FFBA.

[Miri]

Things may have changed since the last time I saw Station Operations, but What the Hel Suit is described as is what I remember seeing them wearing. The Suit for EVA is not it. I will look to see if I can find the relevant pic that I remember and strive to link it somehow, as I am Link Deficient. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Are you possibly thinking of the thermal tube covered underlining that they wear on the under the hard EVA suits?

[Neraph]

I think I know what you're talking about, and I still don't think it's correct. Plus, it goes against the description of the HEL suit, whereas the visual for EVA agrees with it (except the EVA lacks the hoodie+facemask). And I still assert you can wear baggy clothing over tight clothing and not suffer from it.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Are you possibly thinking of the thermal tube covered underlining that they wear on the under the hard EVA suits?

Nope, the Partial Pressure Suit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I think I know what you're talking about, and I still don't think it's correct. Plus, it goes against the description of the HEL suit, whereas the visual for EVA agrees with it (except the EVA lacks the hoodie+facemask). And I still assert you can wear baggy clothing over tight clothing and not suffer from it.

How do you equate the HEL suit to an EVA Suit. They are NOT the same thing. There is no way whatsoever, that you could every claim, the EVA suit is comfortable for everyday wear. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Marwynn]

This not only irrelevant it's also inane. Please take it elsewhere.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

This not only irrelevant it's also inane. Please take it elsewhere.

Really? Hmmmm... Seemed pretty relevant to the conversation to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
Even if it was a bit off topic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Marwynn]

No, it's completely irrelevant to the topic. And it is absolutely, positively inane.

[Blitz66]

I don't know. I think, if the space suit in question was meant to be FFBA - auto-corrected by my phone as TCHAIKOVSKY - then it would have associated language similar to FFBA. I, personally, wouldn't allow it, but whatever. Don't think there's a rule expressly forbidding that use of that equipment, so enjoy, if you like.

[Neraph]

Note I'm not saying to STACK IT WITH OTHER ARMOR, just that you can WEAR BAGGY CLOTHES OVER CERTAIN TIGHT-FITTING ARMORS. This also includes, say, the Armor Vest or the Urban Explorer.

[HunterHerne]

Note I'm not saying to STACK IT WITH OTHER ARMOR, just that you can WEAR BAGGY CLOTHES OVER CERTAIN TIGHT-FITTING ARMORS. This also includes, say, the Armor Vest or the Urban Explorer.

While I don't think the dayglow basic colour of the Urban Exploreris the best, I don't picture it as something of a tight fit, so, I doubt I'd wear anything over it, unless I was headed to the arctic and wanted a nice big (and warm) parka.

[Neraph]

You could feasibly wear a shirt, pants, jacket, and possibly more over this.

[HunterHerne]

You could feasibly wear a shirt, pants, jacket, and possibly more over this.

Yeah, alright. But I don't know if I'd consider that on par with an Urban Explorer. It doesn't look like it would offer much protection, and certainly not the 6/6 rating.

[Neraph]

Of course not - we're not 60 years in the future with advanced ballistic fabrics.

[Sephiroth]

This not only irrelevant it's also inane. Please take it elsewhere.

[HunterHerne]

Alright. I concede the argument anyway.