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Aug 13 2011, 06:40 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
I completely agree that is how it should work but suoq made a convincing case that it is not RAW.
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Aug 13 2011, 06:41 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
I completely agree that is how it should work but suoq made a convincing case that it is not RAW. Actually, he really did not... If you choose to broadcast relevant facts about yourself that are not required for SIN verification, well, that is all on you. Me, I only give what is absolutely necessary. Even in Real Life. |
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Aug 13 2011, 07:37 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
It depends on *which* law. They can require anything they want.
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Aug 13 2011, 08:05 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,649 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:08 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
It depends on *which* law. They can require anything they want. The Public Profile is the Thing though. What is Public? Certainly your SIN is, maybe any licenses or certifications. But what is in my Pocket, or in my body, is not mandated to be attached to the public profile of the PAN. As I said before, whatever you choose to broadcast is fine and dandy, but the vast majority of information that a public/corporate servant (read police/security) would need is only your SIN. Maybe some of your more important Biometrics. My medical file, what I own, what cyberware is implanted, is not part of your public profile at all. It might be something that you could release if needed, along with Licenses or certifications, but they should NOT be part of your public information that everyone reads. Unless you choose it to be. By Default, Your SIN provides only the following Information, Per SR4A. QUOTE The actual numbers that compose a SIN are generated by a complex formula from several pieces of personal data. What this means is that law enforcement officials can determine your birthdate, state or country of origin, citizenship, and initials from your SIN. And, why would they need anything else for a random sweep, as is the case in most zones where your Comlink must be in Active Mode. Additionally. Same reference... QUOTE It used to be that one’s SIN and other forms of identification were all stored on credsticks, pen-sized tubes that served simultaneously as ID and credit card. Since the Matrix went wireless, however, all of this information was transferred to the commlink, and credsticks only survive as certified but relatively anonymous means of payment. In addition, all of a person’s credentials and necessary personal data (licenses, credit history, health insurance, cred accounts, etc.) are stored in encrypted form on her commlink (with a default Encryption rating of 5).For privacy reasons, this information is usually not broadcast as part of their personal profile for social networking, though some high-security areas may require that key information (particularly name and SIN) be broadcast. These personal details can also be transmitted (again in encrypted format) on an as-needed basis, as authorized by the user. For example, a store may ask for your cred account information (and possibly credit history or even licensing if you’re buying restricted goods), a hospital will ask for your medical records and insurance, while a security checkpoint might demand your SIN, passport, and criminal record. For security purposes, such data can also be transmitted at a lower Signal rating, via a short-range, line-of-sight infrared beam connection, or by physically linking the commlink to a terminal and transmitting by fiberoptic cable. So, as can be seen. The majority of your data is NOT transmitted in Active Mode, as part of your public profile, unless there is reason to dig deeper. That should cover it quite nicely, I believe. |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:12 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:16 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Ammo Caliber Increase = High Power Chambering. -k Which is the only way to get more powerful calibers in your firearm frame. It is the only modification that allows this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:36 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:41 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,649 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
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Aug 13 2011, 08:42 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
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Aug 13 2011, 09:04 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
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Aug 13 2011, 09:28 PM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
As described, it's refitting a weapon with a more powerful round. It's the closest thing the rules have to increased caliber. It's mod that refits the weapons firing chamber to handle increased pressure from rounds using more powerful propellant, that for some mystical reason are only available as standard rounds(IE. no APDS,EX-EX,hollow point high power rounds) No change to the caliber of the weapon. Something like following is IMO a pretty good rule for upping the weapons caliber: Higher Caliber Gun is modified to fire higher caliber bullets then it normally does, this gives the gun +1 to DV. Ammo capacity is reduced by 25% 2 10 shop Weapon price + 2500¥ 10R |
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Aug 13 2011, 10:06 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Sure, if you wanna use a house rule.
Then again you can do anything with a house rule. -k |
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Aug 13 2011, 10:57 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
The majority of your data is NOT transmitted in Active Mode, as part of your public profile, unless there is reason to dig deeper. That should cover it quite nicely, I believe. Absolutely correct. The majority of your data is not transmitted. (Note that the section has nothing to do with active or passive mode, but with transmitting data). To get the rest of the data that they don't require to be transmitted, they have to log onto your commlink (see my earlier quote about active commlinks) and look at it. If they don't look, they don't know. But anyone can look if your commlink is active. Personally, I don't like it any more than anyone else. Unfortunately, that's what they wrote. |
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Aug 13 2011, 11:49 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Firebase Zulu Member No.: 32,769 |
A visual inspection of your Def Ex shocker, no I doubt he would be able to tell it has been fire selection modded. Unless you have a smartgun link built into it you would have to have a selector switch so I suppose that could be a clue as I imagine the safetys on one of these is some kind of trigger/grip based thing so the clueless secretary doesn't have to fumble with the switch.
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Aug 14 2011, 01:51 AM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
Well the Defiance Ex Shocker has it's taser darts stored in an internal magazine. Mags are apparently usual, so I guess the issue is that darts are exotic. I wouldn't use the words exotic to describe darts, whereas I would use the word exotic to describe pain inducer ammo. If it's listed under a normal ammo list I wouldn't say it's exotic, whereas the pain inducer has "special" ammo (literally listed as special). Additionally tasers are not listed under any exotic heading, whereas flamethrowers first instance are listed under exotic weapons in Arsenal. I don't think Capacitor dart are exotic ammo, but unlike every other taser Defiance EX Shocker shoots dart trailed by 20m cables, witch i would assume is the reason for the SS fire mode in the first place. A visual inspection of your Def Ex shocker, no I doubt he would be able to tell it has been fire selection modded. Unless you have a smartgun link built into it you would have to have a selector switch so I suppose that could be a clue as I imagine the safetys on one of these is some kind of trigger/grip based thing so the clueless secretary doesn't have to fumble with the switch. Why would there be a selector witch, there's really no need for one when the change is only from SS to SA firemode. |
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Aug 14 2011, 02:10 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
Why would there be a selector witch, there's really no need for one when the change is only from SS to SA firemode. Because Firing slection change only adds new options. A modded Shocker would not be SA but SS/SA. Don't ask me why anyone would use the SS mode, though: I already don't understand why they keep SA on assault rifles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Aug 14 2011, 02:12 AM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
As we know, there's no reason to have anything but FA… except for the weird little Called Shot technicality.
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Aug 14 2011, 02:18 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Absolutely correct. The majority of your data is not transmitted. (Note that the section has nothing to do with active or passive mode, but with transmitting data). To get the rest of the data that they don't require to be transmitted, they have to log onto your commlink (see my earlier quote about active commlinks) and look at it. If they don't look, they don't know. But anyone can look if your commlink is active. Personally, I don't like it any more than anyone else. Unfortunately, that's what they wrote. I disagree... Looking at what is actively transmitted is one thing. Actually logging on to the Comlink is something else entirely. Regardless of whether you are in Active Mode or Hidden Mode. Just because you are active does not mean you have no defenses on your comlink. They STILL have to login, which is the same whether you are active or not. And that may be a challenge (for a shadowrunner' comlink anyways). The only difference is that they do not have to FIND your node, they know exactly where it is. |
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Aug 14 2011, 02:22 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Because Firing slection change only adds new options. A modded Shocker would not be SA but SS/SA. Don't ask me why anyone would use the SS mode, though: I already don't understand why they keep SA on assault rifles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Because rampant spamming of ammunition gets expensive fast. One of the reasons they removed FA Fire from the M16 when I was in the Marine Corps. Ammo cxontrol is important when you only have so much ammunition. Automatic Fire throws Fire Ammo) Discipline into the trash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 14 2011, 02:27 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Not in real life, TJ. In SR. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Where FA can fire SA, BF, anything.
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Aug 14 2011, 02:32 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 |
Just because you are active does not mean you have no defenses on your comlink. Let me repeat my quote from SR4A, pg 223 QUOTE You give permission for anyone to connect to your commlink and see what is on it. I'm not saying you or me or anyone else has to like it. I'm saying that's what they put in the rules. It's right up there with Glamour affecting dragons 100% of the time. |
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Aug 14 2011, 02:35 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
That's a vague, fluffy 'rule'. It could simply mean that people see your public Facespace page. It's an assumption to say that it means they get admin access to your whole PAN (even read-only). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) However, authorities may well require smartgun tracking, etc., depending on the infinite variety of secure zones that you find yourself in. There's even a gun specifically designed for location-locking, Safe-Target, TI'd, etc.
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Aug 14 2011, 02:43 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
The other disturbing thing is the way they say that the commlink mode determines the mode for the whole PAN. If your commlink is Active, then your PAN is Active.
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Aug 14 2011, 02:45 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Everything should be skinlinked anyway, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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