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Socinus
post Aug 16 2011, 09:31 PM
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The Propulsion Upgrade (Flying) upgrade takes up 8 upgrade slots, yet dont weapons only have like 6 upgrade slots?

How does that work?
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Yerameyahu
post Aug 16 2011, 09:43 PM
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That's how the US legislature works. One writer wanted the dumb mod in, and another didn't. Instead of overruling the first one, he just made it unfundable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It also requires a Facility and costs about quadruple what a heavily modded gun costs, so you're better off just getting a small drone in the first place.
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:49 PM
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It does say somewhere that the number of mod slots a certain weapon has is never set in stone, maybe a massive anti material rifle will have comparatively more slots than a holdout pistol?
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:51 PM
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But a huge gun would require even larger flight mods. Yes, the GM has full control, but that's true about all aspects of the game. It is a pretty silly oversight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Aug 16 2011, 10:49 PM) *
It does say somewhere that the number of mod slots a certain weapon has is never set in stone, maybe a massive anti material rifle will have comparatively more slots than a holdout pistol?

I was trying to find the specific rules regarding that but I cant seem to track them down
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:57 PM
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There are none. Everything has 6, except the GM can say otherwise.
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post Aug 16 2011, 09:59 PM
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Eh. Overmodding, i guess.

It counts for vehicles, should count for weapons too (I am too lazy to look for it)

Rule say: "Ask your GM. Gm may allow overmodding at his/her conditions"
I like that rule. Allows you to slow down, weigh down, make unreliable etc. The stuff the players come up with... and they gladly accept it for layering on more armor, more speed, etc.
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post Aug 16 2011, 10:08 PM
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Seriously, though. Buy a Roto-Drone (2000¥) and a Weapon Mount, or a LEBD. (No, an Optic-X is too small, you munchkins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) )
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post Aug 16 2011, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 16 2011, 04:08 PM) *
Seriously, though. Buy a Roto-Drone (2000¥) and a Weapon Mount, or a LEBD. (No, an Optic-X is too small, you munchkins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) )


Not for a Slivergun!

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post Aug 16 2011, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 16 2011, 10:08 PM) *
Seriously, though. Buy a Roto-Drone (2000¥) and a Weapon Mount, or a LEBD. (No, an Optic-X is too small, you munchkins. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) )


No such thing as too small. My 1mm microdrone with 1 body can EASILY fire a LMG with no recoil whatsoever, and I don't care what you say to the contrary.
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE (Seerow @ Aug 16 2011, 05:30 PM) *
No such thing as too small. My 1mm microdrone with 1 body can EASILY fire a LMG with no recoil whatsoever, and I don't care what you say to the contrary.

This is both RAW and legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 16 2011, 06:28 PM) *
This is both RAW and legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif)


Geko grip tips ftw!
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post Aug 17 2011, 12:38 AM
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In all seriousness though...

You'd basically have to Overmod to get it, and you're better off using a flying drone with a weapon mount. Or have the gun possessed with a Called spirit.
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post Aug 17 2011, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 17 2011, 02:38 AM) *
You'd basically have to Overmod to get it, and you're better off using a flying drone with a weapon mount. Or have the gun possessed with a Called spirit.

A possessed gun can't fly. Nor can it walk. It can lie there and look menacing though. Arguably even fire itself, if it doesn't have purely electronic ignition through Skinlink/DNI.
Just like a possessed statue can't walk.
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post Aug 17 2011, 01:22 AM
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It can if it's a Spirit of Man with the Levitate spell, or a Free Spirit with the Levitate spell. That's why I said Calling and not Summoning.
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post Aug 17 2011, 03:30 AM
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It's not RAW or legal (whatever the difference between those is), because the SR4A says 'down'. Arsenal loses. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Hehe.

You and your calling! Oy.
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post Aug 17 2011, 06:28 AM
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It's even illegal without SR4A trumping Arsenal. A microdrone can only take microdrone modifications. a weapon mount is a standard modification.
QUOTE ('Arsenal p. 131')
Size and Type: Each modification is either a microdrone, minidrone, standard, or all modification. Microdrones can only be equipped with microdrone modifications; minidrones can only be equipped with microdrone and minidrone modifications; all other drones and vehicles can only be equipped with standard modifications. All means that the modifi cation is available for all vehicle sizes.

People tend to overlook that rule.
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post Aug 17 2011, 03:27 PM
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Fine fine, we'll do it with a Ferrett.
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post Aug 17 2011, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 17 2011, 09:27 AM) *
Fine fine, we'll do it with a Ferrett.


Do it with a KE P4 chase drone and run em down at speed 180.. then turn around and pump em full of lead :>
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post Aug 17 2011, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Aug 17 2011, 05:27 PM) *
Fine fine, we'll do it with a Ferrett.

No minidrones, either. Standard modifications are for small drones and larger, if you ignore SR4A stating "round down", of course. I tend to do that, because weapon mounts are way more detailed in "Arsenal". It consumes a lot of slots for something better than a fixed mount anyway. It's more expensive most of the time, too, and there's a new suggested rule for recoil compensation. Just too many differences for me.
Back on topic: Overmodding is the only chance to do it, yes.
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post Aug 17 2011, 05:17 PM
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Also it has been "round down" in SR4 without A as well. The rules in Arsenal explicitly say that the weapon mount modification replaces the one from the BBB.
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post Aug 17 2011, 06:03 PM
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I just don't understand what's wrong with the MCT Roto or the LEDB. There's no *need* to cheat.
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post Aug 17 2011, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 17 2011, 11:03 AM) *
I just don't understand what's wrong with the MCT Roto or the LEDB. There's no *need* to cheat.


Agreed... Not sure what the reasoning is, but whatever it is, it is odd.
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post Aug 17 2011, 07:19 PM
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Weird, never noticed. Not that i ever had a need for a flying gun (a crawling one however (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) )
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post Aug 18 2011, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE (Modular Man @ Aug 17 2011, 11:13 AM) *
No minidrones, either

Hrmm... I thought the ferrett was small. Man, I've been off my game recently (it may have something to do with not playing it for about a year...).
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