autosofts question Options

[Phatpug]

First off I'd like to thank everyone for their answers and comments. you guys have helped me out a lot and i appreciate it.

for my next noob question autosofts. The way i read the book you must purchase a copy of each autosoft for each drone you wish to load it on to. For example if i want Clearsight 4 on 3 different drones then i need to purchase 3 copies of Clearsight 4. the confusion comes when i look at the premade rigger in the sr4 book. He has no autosofts loaded into his drones, they are loaded on his commlink and he only has one copy of each autosoft.

Which way is correct? Can i purchase one copy of each autosoft i wish (as long as they are all the same rating) and load that autosoft into as many drones as i want? or do i need to purchase autosofts for each drone?

thanks again for the help guys.

[Miri]

And what about softs that interact.. ie Tacsoft. Can I buy one copy of Tacsoft 1 and load it onto my Optic-X and a Fly-Spy and my commlink and get its bonuses?

[Mardrax]

Autosofts are Software like any other, so come with Copy Protection out of the box. Removing that is a trivial matter of taking some time for any hacker worth his salt. Copying them to any and all drones they're needed on is a done deal after that. Note potential issues with Registration as well.
Alternatively, pirated softs are cheap, come without Copy Protection and Registration, but degrade.

This is if your table incorporates Unwired Software rules. Otherwise, just the first point holds.

[Mardrax]

And what about softs that interact.. ie Tacsoft. Can I buy one copy of Tacsoft 1 and load it onto my Optic-X and a Fly-Spy and my commlink and get its bonuses?

Drones can, and often are quite valuable members of a Tacnet team. Even just strapped to you, they can trick you out well.
Do look up how Sensor rating for drones and Sensor channels for a Tacnet work.

[Miri]

Drones can, and often are quite valuable members of a Tacnet team. Even just strapped to you, they can trick you out well.
Do look up how Sensor rating for drones and Sensor channels for a Tacnet work.

*nodnod* Drones can only contribute their Sensor rating in channels. I'm asuming from your above answer that I have to buy Tacsoft 1 three times then.

[Mardrax]

*nodnod* Drones can only contribute their Sensor rating in channels. I'm asuming from your above answer that I have to buy Tacsoft 1 three times then.

Unless you find your way around dealing with the Copy Protection issue: yes.

Also, tricking your drones out with higher sensor ratings is well worth the investment to get a better Tacnet rolling.

[Miri]

Unless you find your way around dealing with the Copy Protection issue: yes.

Also, tricking your drones out with higher sensor ratings is well worth the investment to get a better Tacnet rolling.

Yeah, the actual character has the sensors defiined in the write up and paid for so his optic x flying turret and the flyspy tacsoft buddy both have rating 6 sensors.

[Neraph]

*nodnod* Drones can only contribute their Sensor rating in channels. I'm asuming from your above answer that I have to buy Tacsoft 1 three times then.

No. You can do a Centralized TacNet, page 125, Unwired.

[Mardrax]

No. You can do a Centralized TacNet, page 125, Unwired.

Ah. Yes.
I tend to forget about that one.

[Neraph]

Also, don't forget to get your Freeware! Free r4 TacSoft for everyone!

[Miri]

No. You can do a Centralized TacNet, page 125, Unwired.

Now comes the fun part. A teammate can slave his commlink to a Technomancers Living Persona, and the TM can set up a Centralized TacNet with his Tacsoft Complex Form.. but will it be usable by the teammate?

[Neraph]

I'd like to see where it says you can do a TacNet CF. You need the computational power of a Smartgun Link to compile into a Smartlink CF, so I'd imagine that a TacNet can't funtion without either: 1) Running it off a Commlink, or 2) Having a near-comatose TM.


EDIT: Now you could have the Central TacNet slaved to the TM...

[Mardrax]

I'd like to see where it says you can do a TacNet CF. You need the computational power of a Smartgun Link to compile into a Smartlink CF, so I'd imagine that a TacNet can't funtion without either: 1) Running it off a Commlink, or 2) Having a near-comatose TM.

A TM can Emulate pretty much any piece of Software that's functional on its own.
Tacsoft is Software that's functional on its own.
A TM's bionode equals a comlink for all intents and purposes. Given proper mental attributes, they tend to outclass them. Imposing said restrictions on them would be silly. If it doesn't bog your 'link down unduly, it shouldn't do so to your TM.

[Neraph]

Ok then. Get a TacNet CF at rating 2... then Thread it to 7 or higher.

[HunterHerne]

Ok then. Get a TacNet CF at rating 2... then Thread it to 7 or higher.

Still need to fulfil the minimum sensor channels and members, but yeah, it can be insane.

[LurkerOutThere]

Personally I do not allow a threaded tacsoft to out strip regular tacsoft ratings, and even then there is the sensor channel and participant requirement. Your millage may vary of course.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Personally I do not allow a threaded tacsoft to out strip regular tacsoft ratings, and even then there is the sensor channel and participant requirement. Your millage may vary of course.

We treat the Tacsoft much like an Active Soft. You can learn it, but cannot thread it up after that point.

[Miri]

We treat the Tacsoft much like an Active Soft. You can learn it, but cannot thread it up after that point.

Really curious why you limit it like that?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Really curious why you limit it like that?

Because Active Softs learned by a TM cannot be further threaded up in Rating. It uses an already existant rule.

[Miri]

Because Active Softs learned by a TM cannot be further threaded up in Rating. It uses an already existant rule.

And where are you getting the thought that Tactical Software is an Active Soft? Just because a normal program version of Tac Soft is limited to Rank 4 Max?

[Neraph]

He's not saying it is an activesoft, just that his table uses the limitations of activesofts to attempt to limit the effect of TacSofts.

Which is why TMs can't get them at my tables. I don't have to worry about not letting them thread the CF or anything - they simply can't get it. It's not listed as any particular sort of program (common, hacking, ect), so they can't learn it as a CF.

I'm curious, do you also let TMs get Sensor Software as CFs?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

And where are you getting the thought that Tactical Software is an Active Soft? Just because a normal program version of Tac Soft is limited to Rank 4 Max?

I said we treat it as an ActiveSoft, or other emulatable hardware.

Limits imply that there are .... LIMITS. Notice that they did not allow a Tacnet to advance to Rating 10 like other Programs. Notice that they did not allow ActiveSofts to advance to Rating 7 like Normal Skills can. You want a Tacsoft, you buy it From Rating 1-4. A Technomancer wants a Tacsoft CF, he gets to emulate it (much like an ActiveSoft, Smartlink, or SimRig) from Rating 1-4, and then purchase it as such. Because he has to emulate it to start with, he cannot Thread it above the learned level he bought it at. Just like he cannot thread the Smartlink to all of a suden provide +10 to its use.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I'm curious, do you also let TMs get Sensor Software as CFs?

We do, and in fact, PACKS (The Original PACKS) provides examples of just that thing.

[Neraph]

A TM with Smartlink, TacNet, some Activesofts, and other CFs - "You know guys, sometimes I get these splitting migraines..."

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

A TM with Smartlink, TacNet, some Activesofts, and other CFs - "You know guys, sometimes I get these splitting migraines..."

Yep... Them Technomancers are Odd...