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 Ruthenium Polymer Coating and concealment, Do they stack? |
 Aug 20 2011, 04:02 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant  Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022  |
QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 20 2011, 08:56 AM)  And another : lowlight is not a part of a spectrum. It means you can perceive lower amount of light than normal human would, but still in the same range of frequencies. That's true... You are not really moving into the UV ranges. Which would be cool, by the way. QUOTE Regular camouflage is -2 to Perception Tests when appropriate, +2 when inappropriate. Chameleon coating is -4. So they're adaptive, but also somehow more efficient. For regular Camouflage, I think Combat Fatigues in the various patterns. For Chameleon, I think Predator. |
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Aug 20 2011, 05:20 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 19 2011, 08:08 PM) Heh.... Awesome Clarification there Brazilian_Shinobi... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You welcome, just to avoid more confusions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) |
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Aug 20 2011, 06:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
My point was I don't think chameleon coating does anything with light or anything, it just has perfect camouflage, like having a custom made ghillie suit for every single spot you could be.
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Aug 20 2011, 06:29 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (TheOOB @ Aug 20 2011, 12:06 PM) My point was I don't think chameleon coating does anything with light or anything, it just has perfect camouflage, like having a custom made ghillie suit for every single spot you could be. I can agree with this. |
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Aug 21 2011, 08:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 4-December 09 Member No.: 17,940 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 20 2011, 05:56 PM) And another : lowlight is not a part of a spectrum. It means you can perceive lower amount of light than normal human would, but still in the same range of frequencies. If you're going to nitpick, most light intensification systems also pick some near-infrared light - most CCD cameras do it, their sensivity range is a bit wider than the human eyes. The effect isn't noticeable because the CCD sensors are color-blind : they register the total amount of light hitting them and return a monochromatic image. |
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Aug 21 2011, 09:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Manunancy @ Aug 21 2011, 10:15 PM) If you're going to nitpick, most light intensification systems also pick some near-infrared light - most CCD cameras do it, their sensivity range is a bit wider than the human eyes. According to SR1 and SR2 rulebooks, elves and orks night vision relied on a higher number of rod cells in the retina. Without a specific mention, I would assume their sensitivity range would be close to regular human eyes, though the thermographic vision of dwarfs and trolls set a precedent for different metatypes having different range.
The effect isn't noticeable because the CCD sensors are color-blind : they register the total amount of light hitting them and return a monochromatic image. |
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Aug 22 2011, 02:01 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 21 2011, 05:13 PM) According to SR1 and SR2 rulebooks, elves and orks night vision relied on a higher number of rod cells in the retina. Without a specific mention, I would assume their sensitivity range would be close to regular human eyes, though the thermographic vision of dwarfs and trolls set a precedent for different metatypes having different range. Just FYI: rod cells are generally "color neutral"; e.g. you can't see colors with them, just light intensity. (Two and a half things I didn't know, verifying that tidbit: 1) rod cells are are sensative to a single photon of light (but are clustered in groups to amplify the signal) and 2) they're slow to update; about 100 ms). |
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Aug 23 2011, 05:07 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 20 2011, 11:02 AM) That's true... You are not really moving into the UV ranges. Which would be cool, by the way. Check out Spy Games, pg 151-155 or so. I see in UV! -k |
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Aug 23 2011, 12:56 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Aug 22 2011, 11:07 PM) Check out Spy Games, pg 151-155 or so. I see in UV! -k Awesome... Will check it out. |
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Aug 23 2011, 01:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 572 Joined: 6-February 09 From: London Uk Member No.: 16,848 |
The UV addition seems very pricey and has a pretty high avaliability for what it is really.
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