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[Stahlseele]

for further ridicule:
i have not found out how i throw the damn grenades x.x

[LurkerOutThere]

G key, at least on PC.

My personal complaint with grenades so far is there's no good aiming system for me. Alpha Protocol at least kind of spoiled me on that.

[hermit]

Plus, they do very little damage, which is why I disposed of them for the rocket launcher. Now I have to scurry them back up. *Sigh*. That and the stupid taser gun.

[Wounded Ronin]

Now granted i'm not going to say i didn't retry the first boss fight like 5 times, but the sixth time i found the perfect strategery, manuever him over by anything explosive, preferably one of the gas canisters throw a grenade at his feet, it will not only hurt him it will cause him to stand there and pull his own grenades. Unload on him as he does this, preferably right in his stupid head. When he breaks the stun he will throw a grenade, likely more then one if he's low on health, if he's positioned right at least one of these grenades will land at his feet.

That boss fight wasn't so bad...only needed several tries. Just threw emps, exploding barrels (it's quakilicious), and did pistol headshots.

[Wounded Ronin]

G key, at least on PC.

My personal complaint with grenades so far is there's no good aiming system for me. Alpha Protocol at least kind of spoiled me on that.

It is suitably old school, like the original Soldier of Fortune.

[Critias]

My only problem with that first boss fight was that I wasn't sure if what I was doing was working, until suddenly the guy was dead. I couldn't tell if my shots were actually doing any damage or if I was just wasting my time like a chump, so I ended up scrambling around like a spaz, trying crazy things, etc, etc, when I could've just stuck with my initial plan and been fine.

[hermit]

This fight just isn't fun to play. Maybe it's because I am not used to have a knot in my fingers from keyboard controls (I usually play action games on consoles and expected this to be more of an open world/explore game), but all the small-ish maladies of DX3's combat system really take to the fore here.

- It is impossible to shoot around corners. Even if you aim 10 cm besides a wall, you will hit the wall.
- Sometimes, arbitrarily, you shots do not hit.
- Load animations are perilously long, and the boss does have way too much health. I am running out of ammo on him, and I pretty much conserved all ammo I got because I'm into silent takedowns. I shot exactly five times with my pistol.
- grenades seem to fly off randomly. Kinda like Shadowrun's scatter rules.

[CanRay]

Maybe this is the engine they based the scatter rules off of? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[hermit]

Seems like. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But the boss cann throw grenades randomly and all fly off in my direction, even if the animation shows him throwing them to the front, and I am standing behind him.

Seriously, this boss fight is wholly unnecessary.

[Critias]

Like in most games, boss fights kind of suck.

[Tanegar]

The boss fights in Shadow of the Colossus are awesome.

Then again, all the fights in Shadow of the Colossus are boss fights.

[Faraday]

I just used emp grenades, cover, and 3 rockets on barrett. A couple sprays to the head with my combat rifle finished him off.

As for the Mantis chick, I found that the Heavy Typhoon followed up with several dozen rounds from the gatling gun worked ok.

Plus, they do very little damage, which is why I disposed of them for the rocket launcher. Now I have to scurry them back up. *Sigh*. That and the stupid taser gun.

What's wrong with the taser? It's a one-shot kill with lots of ammo lying around.

Also not sure what the issue with grenades are. I've found them quite effective despite not ever having a targeting reticle.

[LurkerOutThere]

You had a rocket launcher in the first fight? Due tell, i didn't get a chance to pick one of those up until hong kong.

[Seriously Mike]

Also, augmented legs and the Icarus landing mod are awesome in China. I'm honestly not sure how necessary they would've been earlier in the game, but I can't imagine navigating this city without 'em. Pure gold.

Heh, they're even more awesome when you return to China. Doing an Icarus bomb onto a group of Harvesters or suits followed by offing the stragglers is VERY mohawky.
Also, I ran out of pistol ammo and the only gunrunner in Hengsha doesn't have any in stock. That pisses me off. Do I have to dump SMG and pistol and get a pimped-out assault rifle instead?

[Neurosis]

This game is amazing.

I finished it.

I immediately started again, rolling another character.

[Stahlseele]

yeah, i restarted once or twice too . .
see how different ways of augmentations and weapons and the such work out . .

[hermit]

You had a rocket launcher in the first fight? Due tell, i didn't get a chance to pick one of those up until hong kong.

It's in the room where the boxbot patrols, in the detention cell that's getting a makeover, on one of the piles of pipes, and comes with 2 additional missiles. I guess it's intended for fighty players to be able to take out Boxbot, but hacking boxbot to kill all the soldiers is more fun IMO.

What's wrong with the taser? It's a one-shot kill with lots of ammo lying around.

Not enough range and the second longest reload animation besides the rocket launcher. I usually sell the ammo to my friendly neighbourhood weapons dealer.

On a side note, the woman at LIMB told me I could buy cyber-upgrade points. But where? not at LIMB, they only want to sell me cyber energy bars.

[Stahlseele]

No, you can buy the cyber upgrade points at the limb clinic too, i got two there . .
it takes a while for them to refresh though,i think . .

[Seriously Mike]

it takes a while for them to refresh though,i think . .

Do what? Praxis points at LIMB clinics refresh exactly once: after you return to the hub, which gives us 2 at the first take on Detroit, 2 at the first take on Hengsha, 2 at the second take on Detroit and 2 at the second take on Hengsha.
Also, that bit with implants going haywire for everyone - when a large corporation in hostile territory offers you a free replacement after you shot up their labs, every Shadowrun player worth his mirrorshades will see the consequences from a mile away.

[Stahlseele]

ah, i had my first trip to other places and when i came back there were new points.

[Faraday]

Also, that bit with implants going haywire for everyone - when a large corporation in hostile territory offers you a free replacement after you shot up their labs, every Shadowrun player worth his mirrorshades will see the consequences from a mile away.

Yeah seriously. When the receptionist asked me about getting the replacement chip, I just went "bitch, please!" and bought my 2 praxis points. Also got a jug of cyberfood for the road.

Also, after picking up improved reflexes... Why did I wait so long to get it? Not only does it rock, but you get bonus XP for double melee kills.

[Seriously Mike]

Also, I couldn't resist and took a screenshot of the Harvesters' black clinic. Should serve as a nice illustration for my campaign, especially considering the fact that it's built in a ruined multistory car park.

[Critias]

Also, I ran out of pistol ammo and the only gunrunner in Hengsha doesn't have any in stock. That pisses me off. Do I have to dump SMG and pistol and get a pimped-out assault rifle instead?

I haven't even found a gunrunner besides Grayson and the guy Thorpe introduces you to (both back in Detroit), so right now I'm waddling around with a full inventory, and have been for quite a while. Every once in a while I eat a power bar and wash it down with a bottle of wine (like a real pro), to open up room in my inventory for ammo or something.

[hermit]

Also, I couldn't resist and took a screenshot of the Harvesters' black clinic. Should serve as a nice illustration for my campaign, especially considering the fact that it's built in a ruined multistory car park.

Screenshotting doesn't seem to work for me, sadly. I could spend a lot of time taking screenies ofeverything. While small, the detail in the areas is amazing.

Also, I killed Barret. With my taser. HUNH. Seriously, I just loaded up my last remaining pistol ammo and tasered him, hoping to kill him with even more headshots, and he just ... dropped. I guess I did misjudge the taser gun.

I haven't even found a gunrunner besides Grayson and the guy Thorpe introduces you to (both back in Detroit), so right now I'm waddling around with a full inventory, and have been for quite a while. Every once in a while I eat a power bar and wash it down with a bottle of wine (like a real pro), to open up room in my inventory for ammo or something.

There's also this Russian guy in the apartment block with the crooked people (crooked cop, crooked lab assistant). But I maxed out my inventory first thing, sicne I carried the bloody crossbow with me for ages while waiting to return it to the undercover cop.

Every once in a while I eat a power bar and wash it down with a bottle of wine

Where do you get the wine from? But I pop painkillers like a real junkie. That, and chocolate bars.

Also, David Sarif totally is my image for Johnny Spinrad now.

[Seriously Mike]

There's also this Russian guy in the apartment block with the crooked people (crooked cop, crooked lab assistant). But I maxed out my inventory first thing, sicne I carried the bloody crossbow with me for ages while waiting to return it to the undercover cop.

Russian guy? Where is he exactly? Also, is there a second merchant in Hengsha, in addition to the guy in Hunghua Hotel?