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Aug 27 2011, 10:22 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
Can anyone help clarify this for me please?
You load an agent in your node so that it can assist you wherever you go. You hack into a node, find a file and start making certain 'corrections'. A spider finds you and launches an attack. Your agent has a copy of your Attack program loaded, so can you command the agent to attack the spider whilst you get on with your work? Could you even both attack the spider at once? Can the spider attack the agent instead of you? Presumably the same would apply to sprites...? |
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Aug 27 2011, 11:58 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 4-August 11 From: Vicinity Houston Member No.: 34,911 |
Can anyone help clarify this for me please? You load an agent in your node so that it can assist you wherever you go. You hack into a node, find a file and start making certain 'corrections'. A spider finds you and launches an attack. Your agent has a copy of your Attack program loaded, so can you command the agent to attack the spider whilst you get on with your work? Could you even both attack the spider at once? Can the spider attack the agent instead of you? Presumably the same would apply to sprites...? Yes. Seriously, the answer to each of your questions is "yes". One minor thing, however. Don't turn your back on the spider and "get on with you work". The spider can still attack you while being attacked by your agent. That could be very bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Aug 27 2011, 01:38 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
If it helps, think of the agent as a Drone.
-k |
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Aug 27 2011, 04:13 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
Thanks guys.
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Aug 27 2011, 04:18 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
Ehrm. Doesn't the Agent need acces to the node you're in first as well? Or can you ride a single Agent on your own subscription?
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Aug 27 2011, 04:56 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Either, IIRC.
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Aug 29 2011, 03:49 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Also, whatever programs your Agent is loaded with are also cutting into your comm's System - in your above example you have at the least 3 programs running (two Attack programs and the Agent itself).
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Aug 29 2011, 05:11 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
Also, whatever programs your Agent is loaded with are also cutting into your comm's System - in your above example you have at the least 3 programs running (two Attack programs and the Agent itself). Ah, now wait a moment. I was of the understanding that this was only true of independent agents. Have I got that the wrong way round? |
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Aug 29 2011, 05:19 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
They have to run somewhere. Either they're running on your machine, or they're running on the remote machine (or, possibly, a dedicated machine that is the agent's 'home'). If it's not the latter options, then yes, they're using up your node's resources. 'Equpped'-but-not-running programs do not count.
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Aug 29 2011, 05:27 PM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Note that i think you can pass a running Attack program between you and any agent running on your comlink.
Also makes Nexi hacking such a powerful weapon, as you can stack up on programs and agents. Problem is that you likely need a van to transport it around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Aug 29 2011, 05:37 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Well, some are smallish. A troll's backpack could certainly carry some of the low-/mid-level ones.
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Aug 29 2011, 11:54 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
That's why I prefer Clustering. It's kinda expensive, but I had an AI-in-drone-body character that used his Home Node (drone's node) clustered with two R5 Commlinks in the drone's arms as his mega-node.
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Aug 30 2011, 08:53 AM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
ugh, reminds me that i have a full borg hacker here somewhere that stuffed as many comlinks as he could inside his cyberlimbs. Came out kinda crazy.
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Aug 30 2011, 11:50 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
Ok, here's a follow-up query regarding sprites –
If a sprite has a CF that the TM doesn't, can the sprite 'give' it to the TM for his own use? The closest I can find to any rules on the matter is that sprites function mostly like agents. So if agents can do this with programs can sprites do the same with CFs? |
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Aug 30 2011, 11:53 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
If a sprite has a CF that the TM doesn't, can the sprite 'give' it to the TM for his own use? No. A sprite can lend a TM or other sprite use of its CFs as much as a Spirit might lend a mage use of its powers or spells. They could however Assist Operation or whatever it's called. |
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Aug 30 2011, 01:55 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
No. A sprite can lend a TM or other sprite use of its CFs as much as a Spirit might lend a mage use of its powers or spells. They could however Assist Operation or whatever it's called. That's pretty much what I thought, though it seems to be a common sense thing rather than RAW since CFs are analogous to programs rather than powers or spells. I guess Assist Operation is already pretty awesome, what with the sprite not needing to know the CF themselves. |
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Aug 30 2011, 02:12 PM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
the CFs are analogous to programs in what they can be used for, not in every last detail of their behavior.
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Aug 30 2011, 02:58 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
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Aug 30 2011, 03:53 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Ok, here's a follow-up query regarding sprites – If a sprite has a CF that the TM doesn't, can the sprite 'give' it to the TM for his own use? The closest I can find to any rules on the matter is that sprites function mostly like agents. So if agents can do this with programs can sprites do the same with CFs? Basically they covered it, but they missed a Free Sprite entering into a Networking Resonance Bond with a Technomancer (page 160, Unwired). |
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Aug 31 2011, 04:10 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
True but that's so far outside the normal that's it's borderline not worth muddying the issue.
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