 Spirits and Tradition, What the hell kind of power is "Heart" anyhow? |
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 Aug 29 2011, 09:21 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465  |
OK, maybe I'm just having a really bad brain fart, but why are spirits broken up like such? Combat, Detection, Health, Illusion, Manipulation? Is that the preferred spirit for that type of action the magician's tradition uses? Are they the spirits summoned for information that you want in those areas of magic? Do you have to summon a specific one to tell you why the rum is gone?
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Aug 29 2011, 09:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 21-June 10 Member No.: 18,737 |
For the Aid Sorcery or Aid Study services a spirit can only help with its associated type, e.g. a Hermetic Fire spirit can help your cast or learn combat spells.
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Aug 29 2011, 09:41 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
It's pretty arbitrary, yeah. Just gives some flavor.
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Aug 29 2011, 09:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 14-July 11 From: Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 33,321 |
My aging brain seems to recall that it denotes the type of spirit required for spell sustaining. I could be completely wrong though... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
EDIT: It appears of been Double-Ninja'd (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif) |
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Aug 29 2011, 10:26 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
OK, good to know, thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Aug 29 2011, 11:49 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Lanlaorn @ Aug 29 2011, 03:35 PM)  For the Aid Sorcery or Aid Study services a spirit can only help with its associated type, e.g. a Hermetic Fire spirit can help your cast or learn combat spells. QUOTE (Grinchy McScrooge Posted Today, 03:41 PM ) My aging brain seems to recall that it denotes the type of spirit required for spell sustaining. Quoted for correctness. |
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Aug 30 2011, 01:16 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
CanRay. You've been here nearly four years and have made over 8600 posts. How can you not know this? My world is crumbling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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Aug 30 2011, 01:26 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Aug 29 2011, 08:16 PM) CanRay. You've been here nearly four years and have made over 8600 posts. How can you not know this? My world is crumbling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) Four years, nearly 9000 posts, hunting for a game for TWENTY F***ING YEARS...And I just made a character for what I hope is a campaign starting up soon. So, yeah, I thought I'd get my ducks in a row soon. Norse Mythology Magician, BTW, with a Cyberwolf Companion. |
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Aug 30 2011, 01:39 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 29 2011, 09:26 PM) Four years, nearly 9000 posts, hunting for a game for TWENTY F***ING YEARS... And I just made a character for what I hope is a campaign starting up soon. So, yeah, I thought I'd get my ducks in a row soon. Norse Mythology Magician, BTW, with a Cyberwolf Companion. 'bout time. Good luck on your run as a PC |
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Aug 30 2011, 04:18 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 9,661 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 29 2011, 09:26 PM) Four years, nearly 9000 posts, hunting for a game for TWENTY F***ING YEARS... Well, if you lived anywhere near a real city.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) [Jibes aside, I've had trouble finding players, too.]QUOTE And I just made a character for what I hope is a campaign starting up soon. So, yeah, I thought I'd get my ducks in a row soon. Norse Mythology Magician, BTW, with a Cyberwolf Companion. Cool. |
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Aug 30 2011, 05:30 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Aug 29 2011, 08:39 PM) 'bout time. Good luck on your run as a PC Thanks. Hasn't happened yet however. See if it does this time...QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug 29 2011, 11:18 PM) Well, if you lived anywhere near a real city.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) [Jibes aside, I've had trouble finding players, too.] I live in the Crime Centre (Especially Violent Crime) of Canada. Real enough for you?
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Aug 30 2011, 07:11 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Aug 29 2011, 11:18 PM) [Jibes aside, I've had trouble finding players, too.] Me. Skype and/or Vent. And me. Me. |
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Aug 30 2011, 09:54 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 30 2011, 02:26 AM) Four years, nearly 9000 posts, hunting for a game for TWENTY F***ING YEARS... I don't get how it could be so hard... Winnipeg is six times bigger than Leyden, and yet I'm drowning in groups to play in. Well, once you're in a group, odds are much better of finding another one, since you're on people's "maybe he's interested in joining our group too" list. |
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Aug 30 2011, 10:24 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 30 2011, 11:54 AM) I don't get how it could be so hard... Winnipeg is six times bigger than Leyden, and yet I'm drowning in groups to play in. Well, once you're in a group, odds are much better of finding another one, since you're on people's "maybe he's interested in joining our group too" list. Leiden's one of our country's biggest university cities, after all. In contrast here in Rotterdam, I basically have one group. Of which one guy moved off to Nijmegen, and one moved off to the heartland of the Kempen. Assumedly in preparation for the sixth age to hit, stay away from all that nasty flooding, and be in our Awakened lands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Aug 30 2011, 10:27 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
QUOTE (Mardrax @ Aug 30 2011, 11:24 AM) Leiden's one of our country's biggest university cities, after all. In contrast here in Rotterdam, I basically have one group. Of which one guy moved off to Nijmegen, and one moved off to the heartland of the Kempen. Assumedly in preparation for the sixth age to hit, stay away from all that nasty flooding, and be in our Awakened lands. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Kempen's pretty backwards yeah. Nijmegen has RPG groups that I know of. But yeah, universities are a good thing for finding players. Winipeg seems to be the biggest town in a wide area, so that should work out.. |
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Aug 30 2011, 11:50 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 30 2011, 12:27 PM) Kempen's pretty backwards yeah. Nijmegen has RPG groups that I know of. Nijmgen is mad on the RPing front, I hear. Most every 'looking for gaming groups' website I've ever seen had zounds of people in that area. I should contrast my previous statement with saying that's just talking SR groups. D&D and WoD I never seem to run out of groups/players for. |
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Aug 30 2011, 11:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 14-July 11 From: Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 33,321 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 30 2011, 05:27 AM) But yeah, universities are a good thing for finding players. Winipeg seems to be the biggest town in a wide area, so that should work out.. I live in a large University town (2 major universities, one major college, miscellaneous other), yet I've had a hell of a time trying to find people to game with. It seems to me that if you're not directly involved with The University Of Waterloo (or working at RIM) you can never find the gamer networks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) |
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Aug 30 2011, 11:56 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
QUOTE (Mardrax @ Aug 30 2011, 12:50 PM) I should contrast my previous statement with saying that's just talking SR groups. D&D and WoD I never seem to run out of groups/players for. I've formed SR groups from D&D/WoD groups before. SR has enough going for it that you can easily make a good pitch to people who are already into RPGs. It's got the fighting badass appeal of D&D and it's "our world, but evil and magical" setting and dice system make it accessible for WoD players. |
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Aug 30 2011, 12:19 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Aug 30 2011, 01:56 PM) I've formed SR groups from D&D/WoD groups before. SR has enough going for it that you can easily make a good pitch to people who are already into RPGs. It's got the fighting badass appeal of D&D and it's "our world, but evil and magical" setting and dice system make it accessible for WoD players. All of my current SR group is formed from people in separate D&D groups. The rest seems to take more from the utter pink mohawk high fantasy D&D offers, and the one WoD group whose playstyle I actually get along with is fully represented in my current SR group. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Aug 30 2011, 12:30 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
*Cough* Magic: The Gathering and D&D 4th.
Anything else and good luck it seems. |
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Aug 30 2011, 12:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 30 2011, 02:30 PM) *Cough* Magic: The Gathering and D&D 4th. I still play the occassional game of Magic, especially since it's had a bit of a resurgence among one or two friends of mine. Thankfully though, none of us ever made the step into D&D 4th. We looked at it and turned away in "let us have our precious", much like I did when 3.0 came out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Aug 30 2011, 04:01 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
I'm actually enjoying Pathfinder. They made Paladins not suck.
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Aug 30 2011, 04:47 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Yeah, I'm getting a PF game started. I like the increased class flexibility (Paladins are a good example of it).
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Aug 30 2011, 04:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 3-April 11 Member No.: 26,658 |
QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Aug 30 2011, 04:47 PM) Yeah, I'm getting a PF game started. I like the increased class flexibility (Paladins are a good example of it). Paladins are about the only example of a class in PF that gained anything worthwhile. Other classes gained some new features, but lost as much from core mechanic changes (looking at you CMB, and already bad feats being split into 2-3 feat chains), that they're still bad. Wizards still rule the world, about the only high powered class that got taken down to any serious degree was the Druid, and even it is still stronger than any class without full casting. PF is a prime example of adding some gilding to a rotten core and people lapping it up believing that gilding actually made any sort of difference. |
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Aug 30 2011, 06:06 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
Tell us how you really feel? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like that *all* the classes had their core abilities made more flexible.
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