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> Constructing Miniguns, Additional rules available?
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:20 AM
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Are there any additional rules when constructing miniguns? Arsenal Pg 30 Sidebar is intriguing, but offers little in the way of costs, availability, or modification limitations.

Is this a case of "use your best judgement"?
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post Sep 1 2011, 05:06 AM
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Nope. You'll have to make some up.




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Dakka Dakka
post Sep 1 2011, 05:13 AM
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There are no other rules. Minigun besides the published ones are purely GM Fiat.
Whether you can put barrel mods on miniguns has not been addressed either.
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Sep 1 2011, 07:13 AM) *
Whether you can put barrel mods on miniguns has not been addressed either.

I'd just up the price by a sixfold or so.

And forget about using the barrelmounted scope. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 1 2011, 02:29 PM) *
And forget about using the barrelmounted scope. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

I'm pretty sure you can't mount a scope onto barrel slot.
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 1 2011, 01:55 PM) *
I'm pretty sure you can't mount a scope onto barrel slot.

You can't. But hey, I liked the image (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Sep 1 2011, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 1 2011, 06:56 AM) *
You can't. But hey, I liked the image (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Was your image anything like mine?
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post Sep 1 2011, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 1 2011, 01:29 PM) *
I'd just up the price by a sixfold or so.
A sensible houserule, but it is just that - a houserule.
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:04 PM
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You can't ever minigun-ify anything existing. You can invent *new* from-scratch miniguns (with no guidance from the rules).

I'd first ask, 'why?' What about the existing miniguns doesn't work, and can't be fixed via mods (RAW or GM fiat)?
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Arsenal, page 30, minigun sidebar, last sentence)
Only light, medium, and heavy machine guns can be constructed as miniguns.

Based on that one line one could argue that you can simply buy a gun and claim it is a minigun version. I'm not sure I agree with that though.
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:40 PM
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Ha! Not successfully. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 1 2011, 03:55 PM
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In any case it's a "GM has to make something up" situation.



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post Sep 1 2011, 03:57 PM
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Anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) All guns in SR are the same except for magic bonuses (Alpha, White Knight), so what are you actually looking for? There's at least one LMG, MMG, and HMG minigun in the books (right?), so you've got everything you'd want.
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post Sep 1 2011, 04:01 PM
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Well, considering that the prototype for the original modern Minigun was a Civil War-Era (Or thereabouts) Gatling Gun with an electric motor, shouldn't be too difficult to build a primitive one with Shadowtech... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Sep 1 2011, 04:06 PM
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as far as i know, there's only one LMG and two vehicle weapons (at least in the books i'm aware of).

I don't know if it would be possible to mod any weapon into a minigun...seems like something that would have to be built with being a minigun in mind.

But if you were to have it possible, it would require a facility, and take the HV mod and multiply up the cost by like 3 or so.
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post Sep 1 2011, 04:12 PM
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I could well be wrong, then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If so, I certainly understand the want.

Yes, it is *impossible* to mod anything into a minigun. MGs can be *designed* as miniguns (by the GM).
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post Sep 1 2011, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (ZeroPoint @ Sep 1 2011, 07:06 PM) *
as far as i know, there's only one LMG and two vehicle weapons (at least in the books i'm aware of).

German Arsenal has MMG minigun(there's a link somewhere in these forums to PDF containing all the german extra stuff and couple of the chargen tools around here also have that stuff in them).
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post Sep 1 2011, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Mäx @ Sep 1 2011, 02:05 PM) *
German Arsenal has MMG minigun(there's a link somewhere in these forums to PDF containing all the german extra stuff and couple of the chargen tools around here also have that stuff in them).



Cool, thanks for the heads up on that Max
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