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 Sep 4 2011, 11:36 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-July 11 From: NE Pennsylvania Member No.: 34,232  |
Hypothetical...
AP is applied only when armor is worn by the Thanks. |
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Sep 4 2011, 11:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
It is applied.
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Sep 4 2011, 11:44 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Armor is armor: AP applies whether it is "natural", worn, or a combination of the two.
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Sep 4 2011, 11:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
So a troll in speedos has at least 11 dice soak against flechette shots, right? (BOD 5, Natural Armor +1, flechette AP +5)
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Sep 4 2011, 12:06 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Yep.
"Raaagh!! Small arms fire annoys Mongo!" |
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Sep 4 2011, 12:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
That's why you use a called shot to negate armor against said troll. -1 DP is good tradeoff for -6 AP.
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Sep 4 2011, 04:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 21-February 11 Member No.: 22,370 |
Flechettes also have a higher DV than regular bullets fired from the same gun to compensate. And they roll against impact armor. Shotguns are some of my favorite SR weapons for this reason.
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Sep 4 2011, 04:24 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Loch @ Sep 4 2011, 12:15 PM)  Flechettes also have a higher DV than regular bullets fired from the same gun to compensate. And they roll against impact armor. Shotguns are some of my favorite SR weapons for this reason. As far as firearms go, when my characters use them, shotguns are the go-to weapon, as well. Although, I prefer to use the slug stats, then flechette. |
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Sep 4 2011, 04:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Armor-piercing flechettes
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Sep 4 2011, 04:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 4 2011, 12:32 PM) Armor-piercing flechettes Most of those characters are pre-War! Also, I don't know if I want to introduce that craziness to my current group (I am the GM...) |
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Sep 4 2011, 05:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Sep 4 2011, 05:36 PM) Most of those characters are pre-War! Also, I don't know if I want to introduce that craziness to my current group (I am the GM...) Well, AP Flechette is one of the saner things in WAR!, IMO. Besides, I've got the German version. Heard someone say ours is saner, although it does include MilspecTech by default. Go figure. |
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Sep 4 2011, 05:35 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 4 2011, 01:05 PM) Well, AP Flechette is one of the saner things in WAR!, IMO. Besides, I've got the German version. Heard someone say ours is saner, although it does include MilspecTech by default. Go figure. I didn't say I didn't want to have it in reserve, but in reserve. I don't want them getting up into the forefront. I'm running a more street level campaign, and the only time I bring in Miltech stuff is if they specifically breach military safe-lines (for example, flying a Forbidden for private ownership EW Drone within a military flight path) |
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Sep 4 2011, 05:40 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I want German books now... *Pouts*
Also, I wonder how the Japanese are doing... |
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Sep 4 2011, 05:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Sep 4 2011, 06:35 PM) I didn't say I didn't want to have it in reserve, but in reserve. I don't want them getting up into the forefront. I'm running a more street level campaign, and the only time I bring in Miltech stuff is if they specifically breach military safe-lines (for example, flying a Forbidden for private ownership EW Drone within a military flight path) Fair enough. Personally, my characters tend to stick to default ammo in street-level campaigns, or solid slugs in case of the shotguns. Flechette is one of the more expensive options out there. |
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Sep 4 2011, 05:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,019 Joined: 10-November 10 From: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Member No.: 19,166 |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 4 2011, 01:46 PM) Fair enough. Personally, my characters tend to stick to default ammo in street-level campaigns, or solid slugs in case of the shotguns. Flechette is one of the more expensive options out there. Agreed. Most of the PC's actually stick to non-combat or melee. I think the only ones with a good amount of ranged are the tweaked couple (husband and wife in reality), who play a mage(wife) and a rigger(husband). Edit: But they have their own issues with AP. |
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