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 Sep 8 2011, 08:05 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018  |
I fail to see why the material of the air tank should matter. A simple 450 Nuyen Scanner still only needs a single hit to detect your ware.
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Sep 8 2011, 08:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 8 2011, 10:05 AM)  I fail to see why the material of the air tank should matter. A simple 450 Nuyen Scanner still only needs a single hit to detect your ware. The difference is in getting into that club, unfettered by the MAD scanner. |
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Sep 8 2011, 08:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Is there any reason to use a MAD scanner when a Cyberware/millimeterwave scanner will accomplish the same?
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Sep 8 2011, 10:01 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 8 2011, 10:58 AM) Is there any reason to use a MAD scanner when a Cyberware/millimeterwave scanner will accomplish the same? A millimeterwave scanner picks up on everything, a MAD scanner just on magnetically active materials. |
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Sep 8 2011, 10:30 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 31-May 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 17,229 |
Exactly. So what's the reason not to use the one that picks up on everything? Most internal cyberware should already be nonmetallic anyway: there are not that many metals that are not toxic, do not rust and do not get rejected, and the ones that fit the bill are expensive. Hence the reason why it is the millimeter wave scanner that was dubbed as cyberware scanner, not the MAD scanner.
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Sep 8 2011, 10:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Maybe my wording was unclear. I meant it as in "why use the more restricted scanner, when there's a cost-effective scanner that picks up everything is available?".
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Sep 8 2011, 11:38 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Traul @ Sep 8 2011, 12:30 PM) Exactly. So what's the reason not to use the one that picks up on everything? Most internal cyberware should already be nonmetallic anyway: there are not that many metals that are not toxic, do not rust and do not get rejected, and the ones that fit the bill are expensive. Hence the reason why it is the millimeter wave scanner that was dubbed as cyberware scanner, not the MAD scanner. Yet, the MAD scanner at the club, or at airport security isn't looking for cyberware. It's looking to prevent you bringing potentially harmful objects into their security zone. Like weapons, which tend to be made out of steel. A millimeterwave scanner picks up on everything. Flesh, bone, steel, plastic, carbon fiber. This means the person using them has to be trained in interpreting the results. Far more so than the club's bouncer, just standing beside the MAD scanner gate, who asks anyone who makes it beep to empty their pockets, take off their shoes, and when it still makes them beep, give them a good frisking. It's simpler tech, more exclusive in what it picks up, which makes it far easier to operate. |
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Sep 8 2011, 11:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
The text in the cyberware scanner says that it comes with software that automatically identifies the cyberware in question.
Besides, security will want those, especially with implanted weapons available. Even more so when you allow nonmetallic modificitations, similar to firearms. |
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Sep 8 2011, 11:54 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
And even if the internal airtank shows up on the scanner . . who cares?
It's as legal as the datajack and the set of cyber eyes and ears too . . . |
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Sep 8 2011, 01:26 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Huh. The average real-life SCUBA air tank holds roughly an hour's worth of air. It is large, bulky, and heavy.
The Internal Air Tank holds two hours worth of air. It is smaller than one of a human's two lungs, as it is stated to replace part of a lung. Heck, it's technically small enough to be placed in a cyberhand. You can compress air into smaller spaces, but even at the volume of a SCUBA tank the pressures involved are already considerable and potentially dangerous. Twice as much air, in a space a tiny fraction the volume? The weight alone will be noticeable. And given the likely pressure it's under, what happens if it gets ruptured? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) -k |
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Sep 8 2011, 01:40 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
SR3 had rules for that actually.
i think it was 8D Deadly Damage, no armor allowed, aside from bone and skin armor . . |
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Sep 8 2011, 03:12 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 8 2011, 08:26 AM) And given the likely pressure it's under, what happens if it gets ruptured? In SR4? Nothing. In SR3? You got screwed pretty hard. |
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Sep 8 2011, 03:55 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
The SR4 Variant is Clan-Tech Munchkinism with built in CASE . .
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Sep 8 2011, 03:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 8 2011, 03:55 PM) The SR4 Variant is Clan-Tech Munchkinism with built in CASE . . Somehow, I'm reminded of this. |
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Sep 8 2011, 04:28 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
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Sep 12 2011, 04:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Firebase Zulu Member No.: 32,769 |
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