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 Sep 14 2013, 11:03 AM
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
QUOTE (Godwyn @ Sep 13 2013, 01:44 AM)  It was intensive, but I made it through this entire thread finally! On the way, I discovered many pony things I had not, and rediscovered others I had forgotten. Foremost among the discoveries must be Fluffle Puff. A question though, does anyone know what has happened to the Friendship is Witchcraft videos? They all seem to have been pulled down. The series and songs in it are absolutely amazing. And now for a challenge: http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.p...ic,14282.0.html http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/97-let-there-be-pony/ |
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Sep 23 2013, 06:23 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 13 2013, 03:41 PM) What, seriously? When did they turn to the Dark Side? Did the evil lawyers department get unleashed by mistake? They have to realize that actively antagonizing the part of their fanbase that is actually in voluntary control of its own purchasing power is a bad idea, don't they? I don't know. The last posts they put up (that I read) indicated that they don't know either, and no one else seems to have been targeted. But they're still working on stuff, and still posting it, which is great, because I love it. |
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Sep 24 2013, 02:37 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 23 2013, 12:23 PM) I don't know. The last posts they put up (that I read) indicated that they don't know either, and no one else seems to have been targeted. But they're still working on stuff, and still posting it, which is great, because I love it. Hasbro has to defend their copyrights when stuff's brought to their attention, or risk losing them. It's like the fan games, they generally turn a blind eye until someone either starts trying to make money or starts getting enough press it might be confused for an official product. |
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Sep 24 2013, 01:06 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Indeed, however, Hasbro isn't doing the same with the hundreds of other fan series, including the FiM Warhammer art, the FiM fiction series, the FiM 'mental instability' videos, the TONS of FiM music videos. I"m only aware of two cases; the FiM video game (which did involve money changing hands, so Hasbro was totally justified) and Friendship is Witchcraft. Since FiW is a parody, it's actually PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment, and one of the few instances where suing them is clearly wrong.
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Sep 24 2013, 04:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 24 2013, 09:06 PM) Indeed, however, Hasbro isn't doing the same with the hundreds of other fan series, including the FiM Warhammer art, the FiM fiction series, the FiM 'mental instability' videos, the TONS of FiM music videos. I"m only aware of two cases; the FiM video game (which did involve money changing hands, so Hasbro was totally justified) and Friendship is Witchcraft. Since FiW is a parody, it's actually PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment, and one of the few instances where suing them is clearly wrong. Maybe Hasbro was jelly that they were actually making far better music than the actual series was. |
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Sep 26 2013, 12:36 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Minor nitpick, it's trademark that can be lost through non-action, not copyright.
However, this can be handled in a fan-friendly manner with limited open licensing agreements. "You agree to these terms and conditions on usage and must place this text on your work, etc." -k - |
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Sep 27 2013, 03:29 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Sep 26 2013, 08:36 AM) Minor nitpick, it's trademark that can be lost through non-action, not copyright. However, this can be handled in a fan-friendly manner with limited open licensing agreements. "You agree to these terms and conditions on usage and must place this text on your work, etc." -k You mean rather like this one? QUOTE Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.
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Sep 27 2013, 12:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 24 2013, 09:06 AM) Indeed, however, Hasbro isn't doing the same with the hundreds of other fan series, including the FiM Warhammer art, the FiM fiction series, the FiM 'mental instability' videos, the TONS of FiM music videos. I"m only aware of two cases; the FiM video game (which did involve money changing hands, so Hasbro was totally justified) and Friendship is Witchcraft. Since FiW is a parody, it's actually PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment, and one of the few instances where suing them is clearly wrong. Parody of a copyrighted work is one thing, and much easier to do. Parodying a trademark is an exceedingly higher bar to cross as you must violate the trademark by first making the viewer think it's the trademark owner's product and simutaneously make it obvious that it's not the trademark owner's product. The problem, and the reason why they're undoubtedly infringing on a trademark while other fan series aren't, is using the "Friend is <blank>" expression in the title. The original series is video. FiW is video. There's not sufficient difference to indicate that the one is not actually a product of Hasbro. Combine this with a possibly negative <blank> expression, like Witchcraft, which could cause damage to their product and it doesn't surprise me that Hasbro decided to act. As for examples. Chewy Vuiton is a chew toy which parodies Louis Vuitton. It look a lot like a Louis Vuitton handbag. This particular trademark parody was held as fine because it wasn't likely to be confused with the real product as Chewy Vuiton would be sold in pet stores while Louis Vuitton handbags are sold in department stores and Louis Vuitton outlet stores. |
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Sep 27 2013, 03:57 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
In that case, perhaps Hasbro should just inform FiW that is the case, so FiW can change the name instead of shuttling their videos around like the black market pony propaganda they now are.
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Sep 27 2013, 05:33 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 27 2013, 08:47 AM) Parody of a copyrighted work is one thing, and much easier to do. Parodying a trademark is an exceedingly higher bar to cross as you must violate the trademark by first making the viewer think it's the trademark owner's product and simutaneously make it obvious that it's not the trademark owner's product. The problem, and the reason why they're undoubtedly infringing on a trademark while other fan series aren't, is using the "Friend is <blank>" expression in the title. The original series is video. FiW is video. There's not sufficient difference to indicate that the one is not actually a product of Hasbro. Combine this with a possibly negative <blank> expression, like Witchcraft, which could cause damage to their product and it doesn't surprise me that Hasbro decided to act. As for examples. Chewy Vuiton is a chew toy which parodies Louis Vuitton. It look a lot like a Louis Vuitton handbag. This particular trademark parody was held as fine because it wasn't likely to be confused with the real product as Chewy Vuiton would be sold in pet stores while Louis Vuitton handbags are sold in department stores and Louis Vuitton outlet stores. This would seem to be simple enough to me. Add a "Totally not affiliated with Hasbro" watermark at the bottom of their opening or whatever. Also, proper Friendship is Magic airs on The Hub, a television channel, whereas FiW does not 'air' at all, it is distributed over internet channels such as YouTube. The problem is really that Hasbro has money and lawyers. Protection of parody breaks down when the parodying organization is a tiny minnow who will be destroyed simply by attempting to defend themselves in court, even when they're 100% in the right. |
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Sep 30 2013, 04:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
Decking muffin thief spotted:
http://jittery-the-dragon.deviantart.com/a...Derpy-403321143 |
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Sep 30 2013, 05:35 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
The thing I find most amusing is that her pistol has a contoured, ergonomic grip for someone with fingers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 2 2013, 03:59 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 24 2013, 08:06 AM) Indeed, however, Hasbro isn't doing the same with the hundreds of other fan series, including the FiM Warhammer art, the FiM fiction series, the FiM 'mental instability' videos, the TONS of FiM music videos. I"m only aware of two cases; the FiM video game (which did involve money changing hands, so Hasbro was totally justified) and Friendship is Witchcraft. Since FiW is a parody, it's actually PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment, and one of the few instances where suing them is clearly wrong. However, FiW doesn't use original art, just Hasbro works with occasional small modifications and new voiceovers. If they were animating their own work, they'd have more of a leg to stand on as far as why they're getting hit and other fanart isn't. |
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Oct 3 2013, 03:13 AM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Search for PMV on youtube. The majority use only Hasbro material, plus voice-over.
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Oct 9 2013, 05:03 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Spider Pony, Spider Pony . .
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BEVnekOuBAg/UkJJ...1600/detail.jpg |
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Oct 10 2013, 09:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
Lol, the Green Goblin one has a pumpkin (bomb?) stuck to it's butt.
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Oct 14 2013, 04:45 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 2 2013, 09:13 PM) Search for PMV on youtube. The majority use only Hasbro material, plus voice-over. Yeah, and just like FiW, youtube gets takedown notices on them if they draw enough attention that Hasbro notices. Thus the nature of modern copyright law. |
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Oct 14 2013, 02:52 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Oh for the love of all that is Holy...
FOR SAEDER-KLOPP: http://ziom05.deviantart.com/art/Heavy-Met...onies-406985674 |
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Oct 14 2013, 03:25 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 14 2013, 04:52 PM) Oh for the love of all that is Holy... FOR SAEDER-KLOPP: http://ziom05.deviantart.com/art/Heavy-Met...onies-406985674 That. Is. SO! AWESOME! Edit: FOR ÖMAREGODEN! |
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Oct 21 2013, 06:28 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i remember halloween
http://24.media.tumblr.com/91e1508d21fdaf3...24kfo1_1280.png http://25.media.tumblr.com/85e4bd679d5a3e3...eo2_r1_1280.jpg http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/284...ter-d4ciu8o.png http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013...ter-d6oy1mr.png http://iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de/mlp/gif....gif?1347571489 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OemND_zu...agomeKagome.png this one ain't halloweenthemed, but very saccharine http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/s...32__UNOPT__.jpg |
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Oct 21 2013, 08:02 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 21 2013, 02:28 PM) this one ain't halloweenthemed, but very saccharine http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/s...32__UNOPT__.jpg Ohmigod BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:31 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
certainly pulls on your aorta, doesn't it?
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Oct 22 2013, 10:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 22 2013, 02:28 AM) this one ain't halloweenthemed, but very saccharine http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo345/s...32__UNOPT__.jpg Damn onion ninjas, hiding under my table again. |
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Oct 22 2013, 11:58 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (DamHawke @ Oct 22 2013, 12:22 PM) Damn onion ninjas, hiding under my table again. that's a new one for me O.o |
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Oct 23 2013, 09:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Oct 22 2013, 07:58 PM) that's a new one for me O.o http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37685422.jpg might help explain =P |
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