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Sep 13 2011, 04:47 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
It better be if it's going to carry that Body 12 troll around. True... Pretty sure the recoil while flying is going to push that Sparrow back all over the flight path... Or at least it should... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:34 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
True... Pretty sure the recoil while flying is going to push that Sparrow back all over the flight path... Or at least it should... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) When using the 'Drone Body as RC' rule, would it be utter munchkinry to add the troll's Body as well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:39 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
When using the 'Drone Body as RC' rule, would it be utter munchkinry to add the troll's Body as well? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Since I am pretty sure the Sparrow does not have a 12 Body, you cannot mount the weapons on the vehicle (They require a reinforced mount for each one, which takes 6 body each). The Troll MUST be the one wielding them. He aint got enough Body and Strength to do both of them, most likely. |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:41 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
The Sparrow is awful big though... QUOTE (Arsenal, page 112) Basically a human-sized frame with two vector thrust engines mounted... I didn't know "human-sized" was awful big. EDIT: Also, the Sparrow can fit one weapon mount. Not with mechanical arms (of which it can only take 2 full arms, or 4 grapple arms...), but still. |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:42 PM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,248 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
For those that believe that man is naturally limited to controlling two limbs:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/...10220142809.htm QUOTE But what we found, surprisingly, is that the brain solves this conflict by accepting both right hands as part of the body image, and the subjects experience having an extra third arm." The important point is that humans (today) can control a third arm naturally: which wasn't what the scientists expected. In answer to original question: It's either as cheesy as hell, or as cool as Doctor Octopus. See what the GM thinks about the whole character idea. |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:47 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
I didn't know "human-sized" was awful big. In comparison to the Image of the DNI Controlled Robotic Arms of Doc Oc, the Sparrow is absolutely huge. A Metahuman FITS INSIDE of it. Compared to a torso wrap and DNI Interface. They are worlds apart at that point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 13 2011, 05:49 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
In comparison to the Image of the DNI Controlled Robotic Arms of Doc Oc, the Sparrow is absolutely huge. A Metahuman FITS INSIDE of it. Compared to a torso wrap and DNI Interface. They are worlds apart at that point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yes, but Doc Oc can't fly. I think "awful big" (which is still an overstatement - a human can fit "inside" framed backpack but you wouldn't call that HUGE) is a fair tradeoff for extra arms and the ability to fly. |
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Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Yes, but Doc Oc can't fly. I think "awful big" (which is still an overstatement - a human can fit "inside" framed backpack but you wouldn't call that HUGE) is a fair tradeoff for extra arms and the ability to fly. Meh... Flight is overrated... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 13 2011, 06:24 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
A guy running around with drone arms strapped to his shoulders is a great mental picture though. Makes me think of people who add giant spoiler's to the back of their honda four banger. You haven't played Global Agenda yet, have you? http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/77454/preview It's an actual third arm (and all it does is repair stuff, which it can only do if its your active weapon, and you're holding Fire/Alt-fire) |
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Sep 13 2011, 06:32 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Firebase Zulu Member No.: 32,769 |
You haven't played Global Agenda yet, have you? http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/77454/preview It's an actual third arm (and all it does is repair stuff, which it can only do if its your active weapon, and you're holding Fire/Alt-fire) That was actually something I had pondered for a long while doing with my TM. A backpack mounted arm like that skin linked to the wearer. |
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Sep 14 2011, 12:15 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
You haven't played Global Agenda yet, have you? http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/77454/preview It's an actual third arm (and all it does is repair stuff, which it can only do if its your active weapon, and you're holding Fire/Alt-fire) "To gain the upper hand" in that made me cringe. |
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Sep 14 2011, 12:21 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: 23-August 11 Member No.: 36,571 |
And if you say, "then it's a cyberlimb, not a drone", what makes it such? Rigging module (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 14 2011, 01:25 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
For those that believe that man is naturally limited to controlling two limbs: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/...10220142809.htm The important point is that humans (today) can control a third arm naturally: which wasn't what the scientists expected. In answer to original question: It's either as cheesy as hell, or as cool as Doctor Octopus. See what the GM thinks about the whole character idea. Errr did you read your own article? There was no control there, only a reaction test to see if your mind would treat the pseudo prostetic as a real arm for reaction to stimuli pruposes. Both arms laid flat on the table throughout the experiment, ithere's nothign about control there. All they did was do the water glass illusion with a fake hand. |
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Sep 14 2011, 01:51 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Sep 14 2011, 02:00 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=water+glass+illusion
I'm fine with a couple extra arms, but it should be hard to use (requiring significant investment), etc. |
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Sep 14 2011, 02:18 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
So. You insulted my Google Fu by putting the exact search I made into LMGTFY. Results: Magic Snow An illusion of cup volume (unsure how it may have been accomplished, off hand) that is not related to the third arm illusion Same video, but this time with a spanish ad for tide up front A prank tutorial unrelated to the above video Glass tiles Worl-Mysteries.com does illusions. ARTIFICIAL PINK DAISY GLASS VASE Rare Vintage Illusion Glass Water Ball Ornaments Care to...uh. Find me something relevant!? |
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Sep 14 2011, 02:22 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
Basically any illusion based on refraction or ghost image.
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Sep 14 2011, 02:29 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,994 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
*bad dubbing* Oh! You have insulted my Google Fu! Now we must fight!
Hehe. Anyway, sorry. |
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Sep 14 2011, 03:00 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Sep 14 2011, 03:04 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
My bad wording, my point was that the study presented nothing like what Seth suggested it did, suggesting to me he either didn't read the article.
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Sep 14 2011, 09:09 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Or?
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Sep 14 2011, 10:03 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
*inserts dramatic drumroll*
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Sep 15 2011, 12:47 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
.........or fabricated a read to support his beliefs. But it's generally bad form to accuse other posters of fabrication.
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Sep 15 2011, 04:48 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
The last 4 posts are pure epic.
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Sep 15 2011, 06:14 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
Posting from my phone is doing terrible things to my coherence.
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