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 Sep 20 2011, 05:00 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Firebase Zulu Member No.: 32,769  |
QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Sep 20 2011, 10:58 AM)  Well, if you would allow me to play a Vampire/Nosferatu in your game without the racial prejudice, and exchanging Allergy(Sunlight) to Glamour, I'd be almost tempted to play it. Almost. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) That depends.. if you say he sparkles when he is out in the sunlight I might just have to drop a nuke on whatever city he is in. Only way to be sure you know? |
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Sep 20 2011, 05:07 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
I usually only play trolls . .
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Sep 20 2011, 05:18 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 20 2011, 10:07 AM) I usually only play trolls . . I'm Sorry............. |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
it's great fun to be able to defend a stupid decision with being in character sometimes ^^
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Sep 20 2011, 06:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM) it's great fun to be able to defend a stupid decision with being in character sometimes ^^ Sounds like something our Paladin player would say in D&D... |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:20 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Kill him! kill him with fire!
And the character too! |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 2-September 11 Member No.: 37,159 |
QUOTE (Miri @ Sep 20 2011, 01:00 PM) That depends.. if you say he sparkles when he is out in the sunlight I might just have to drop a nuke on whatever city he is in. Only way to be sure you know? I was thinking something along the same lines (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:28 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^
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Sep 20 2011, 06:29 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 20 2011, 11:28 AM) Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^ If it isn't (And It isn't, as far as I can tell), It damn well should be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:31 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,911 Joined: 26-February 02 From: near Stuttgart Member No.: 1,749 |
Yeah, Pixie Heavy Weapons Guy....i am coming. ^^
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Sep 20 2011, 06:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 2-September 11 Member No.: 37,159 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 20 2011, 02:28 PM) Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^ Given that you're only 45cm tall yes, I'd say your choice of weapons would be extremely limited. But when you can throw Force 7 lightning bolts does it really matter? |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:44 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 20 2011, 11:31 AM) Yeah, Pixie Heavy Weapons Guy....i am coming. ^^ We really do not need to know all about your perverse sexual preferences you know... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:45 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stalag @ Sep 20 2011, 11:31 AM) Given that you're only 45cm tall yes, I'd say your choice of weapons would be extremely limited. But when you can throw Force 7 lightning bolts does it really matter? I would agree with this. Unfortunately, tehre is a vocal minority that would insist that since it is not restricted explicitely, it is allowable. |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:56 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
If a Pixie can have Heavy Weapons, a Troll can have Vehicle class weapons. Or, gods forbid, Capital Class weapons.
http://lgliang.deviantart.com/art/Dakka-Lad-178511060 |
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Sep 20 2011, 06:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 20 2011, 08:28 PM) Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^ I'd allow for size-modified gear. It'd also have to be tremendously expensive compared to the original, and probably imported from Tir Na Nog or possibly France. |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:09 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: 27-July 10 Member No.: 18,860 |
QUOTE I would agree with this. Unfortunately, tehre is a vocal minority that would insist that since it is not restricted explicitely, it is allowable. Well, whats about using collision rules because of recoil? |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Sep 20 2011, 06:28 PM) Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^ By RAW, you can even use a Gauss rifle. You won't even need metahuman customization, because you're not a troll or dwarf. |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 2-September 11 Member No.: 37,159 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 20 2011, 02:45 PM) I would agree with this. Unfortunately, tehre is a vocal minority that would insist that since it is not restricted explicitely, it is allowable. True. Though I generally don't see a reason for my caster characters to carry a gun regardless of stature. True, it's a complex action to toss a combat spell where it's only a simple action to get off a shot, but if I'm a true mage and the group is in a position where I need to draw a gun then we're probably already dead. Besides, it wastes Karma/BP raising a skill that could be better spent elsewhere (for you min/maxers) and I really don't think most mages would even bother learning to use a gun (for the character perspective)... they got magic after all! |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:51 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 20 2011, 12:56 PM) If a Pixie can have Heavy Weapons, a Troll can have Vehicle class weapons. Or, gods forbid, Capital Class weapons. http://lgliang.deviantart.com/art/Dakka-Lad-178511060 Yep... Capital Class for the Win... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:52 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Stalag @ Sep 20 2011, 01:48 PM) True. Though I generally don't see a reason for my caster characters to carry a gun regardless of stature. True, it's a complex action to toss a combat spell where it's only a simple action to get off a shot, but if I'm a true mage and the group is in a position where I need to draw a gun then we're probably already dead. Besides, it wastes Karma/BP raising a skill that could be better spent elsewhere (for you min/maxers) and I really don't think most mages would even bother learning to use a gun (for the character perspective)... they got magic after all! It is always nice to have the option, though. When you are in a Background count, Drain can become a burden. Always nice to have a drainless option for combat. |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,211 Joined: 14-October 10 Member No.: 19,113 |
I have to admit that I think Pixies are the ultimate Minimaxer tool. As far as I can see they are better than other races at almost everything.
As an example I can create almost any character in DK's marvelous spreadsheet, change the race to pixie and typically get 50+ BPs back to spend on more goodness. (I am of course limited to a body of 2, the lack of strength just isn't an issue). I usually do this whenever I create a character, sigh, and go back to non munchkin version. I do however like the idea of pixies in a game, but I want them to be very different to humans. A a consequence, when GMing Pixies I have introduced the following rule: Pixies are walking Telesma on the hoof. If you harvest the blood, hair, skin etc from a pixie you can gather enough stuff to sell for around 10,000 nuyen a week. Given that Pixies have mostly no rights it's even legal to keep such a pixie. This is enough money to keep a team of 4 in a luxury lifestyle for life... Back to the original question: Shapechange is another of the routes to power as a mage. It has a major disadvantage that makes up for it's awesome power: you cannot easily wear armor while shape shifted. So although you can get huge attribute buffs, you are very vulnerable to bullets. IMHO if you take away that disadvantage you make it the most powerful spell in the game. For example the "increase attribute" spells increase one attribute, this increases 4. As a GM I would just say no. Physical Mask is the spell of choice for the pixie that wants to pretend to be human. |
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Sep 20 2011, 07:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 158 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Wherever and whenever Member No.: 16,278 |
Plus when you're in a fight with a dedicated counter speller on the other side being able to shoot is very important. I've seen our team mage shut down when hit for hit he was being countered again and again. Or just one decently powerful spirit with mana static (at least I think that's the spell.)
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Sep 20 2011, 08:07 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,083 Joined: 13-December 10 From: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Member No.: 19,228 |
QUOTE (Seth @ Sep 20 2011, 09:58 PM) Pixies are walking Telesma on the hoof. If you harvest the blood, hair, skin etc from a pixie you can gather enough stuff to sell for around 10,000 nuyen a week. Given that Pixies have mostly no rights it's even legal to keep such a pixie. This is enough money to keep a team of 4 in a luxury lifestyle for life... Selling off a dragon could probably buy you, your crew and their families a Luxury lifestyle. Similar to a dragon, I'd like to see anyone try capturing a PC Pixie. Especially with some karma behind him. |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 20 2011, 08:07 PM) Selling off a dragon could probably buy you, your crew and their families a Luxury lifestyle. Similar to a dragon, I'd like to see anyone try capturing a PC Pixie. Especially with some karma behind him. That reminds me of the one time where one of my players jokingly suggested selling their team mage (a vampire). The mage player, in a laconic voice, asks him: "You sure you want to take on a 6th grade initiate houngan for a bounty of 6k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ?" Well, that shut him up. |
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Sep 20 2011, 08:42 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Mardrax @ Sep 20 2011, 02:07 PM) Selling off a dragon could probably buy you, your crew and their families a Luxury lifestyle. Similar to a dragon, I'd like to see anyone try capturing a PC Pixie. Especially with some karma behind him. Everyone has to sleep sometime, even a Pixie (or a 6th Grade Initiate Houngon Vampire... Besides, a 6th Grader is not that much of a challenge anyways. I mean really, how much does a kid know?). |
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