Chernobyl, Why what lovely glowing eyes you have... Options

[Socinus]

So what's become of the illustrious Chernobyl and it's exclusion zone in the Sixth World? There's surprisingly little about it that I can find, even about Ukraine itself.

Are there any books that have info on it?

[Blade]

In the 2070s the radiation levels in Chernobyl are probably much lower than in many other parts of the world. If you want a Stalker-like environment, the SoX is a far better choice.

As for Ukraine itself, they annexed Moldova and a third of Romania during the Euro-Wars. You can find information about it in SoE and SoA. And since it was more or less the center of the game world in Earthdawn there are some archaeological work done there by the Atlantean Foundation.

[LostProxy]

SoX? Sorry I'm not very knowledgeable about SR back story.

[Paul]

The Saar-Lorraine-Luxembourg Special Administrative Zone, is a strip of land between France and Germany that's covered I believe in both the Germany Source-book, and Shadow's of Europe. You may be able to find it on the wiki as well.

Basically it's an irradiated toxic waste land that's gone a little savage to boot, that may or may not have a bunch of secret corporate research and development facilities, and one or more prisons in it.

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[LostProxy]

Thank you for that. Very interesting.

[Sengir]

I vaguely remember reading something about what happens if you summon a fire spirit in Chernobyl...shadowtalk in a pre-4th book IIRC, possibly German...

But in general, the Ukraine in general and Chernobyl in specific is pretty much a white spot. Some random conjecture: As a place which has become iconic for the suffering it caused, it's safe to assume that Chernobyl has a Background Count of at least three, and for similar reason should be somewhat of a pilgrimage site for toxics.

[CanRay]

Especially considering the terror that permeated the area with all the people that used to live there. I saw pictures of the city that used to be there. It's quite... Post Apocalyptic.

Also one of the best missions in a FPS took place in that place. They did a damned good job on the place, with even some very subtle sound effects to mess with your head even more.

[Socinus]

In the 2070s the radiation levels in Chernobyl are probably much lower than in many other parts of the world. If you want a Stalker-like environment, the SoX is a far better choice.

That's actually exactly what I was going for, thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[LostProxy]

A toxic area between Germany and France huh? I see a future mission that can summed up as The Sound of Music + The Hills Have Eyes. Hmmm, this should be interesting.

[Mickle5125]

A toxic area between Germany and France huh? I see a future mission that can summed up as The Sound of Music + The Hills Have Eyes. Hmmm, this should be interesting.

The hiilllllss are aliiiiiive and they're eating peeeople

[Kirk]

The hiilllllss are aliiiiiive and they're eating peeeople

What do you call a problem like Maria?
Lunch.

[Blade]

If you can read French or German, there are SoX books in both languages. They each have their own adventure but the rest of the book (which describe the SoX) is the same.

[Socinus]

If you can read French or German, there are SoX books in both languages. They each have their own adventure but the rest of the book (which describe the SoX) is the same.

A vain hope, but I dont suppose those books have ever been translated to English.

[Paul]

Not that I know of.

[KarmaInferno]

The old Target Wastelands book does indicate that a number of sites where nuclear accidents took place have been "reclaimed" by megacorps by building a new nuke power plant on them. On the theory that, well, it's already an irradiated dump, what else are you gonna put there? Pro-nature advocates are less than enthused by this, of course, especially the magically inclined. And yes, the astral plane and background count in those sites are horrific.

Could make for some corp or eco-group shadowrunning opportunities.


-k

[CanRay]

Or some Toxic Shaman-Stopping duties that come across the 'Runners path that they're forced to do without fiscal reward. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

[Pepsi Jedi]

It might actually surprise you. Right now it's sort of a wild preserve. Tons of animals and stuff live there now. in real life mutation doesn't give you superpowers or turn you into a monster. It usually just kills you. (( or is so minor you live ok with out it, if not better, rarely in between. Evolution is basically just minor mutation 'for the better' passed on)) Alot of animals that are endangered or such around the country, live in the Chernobyl area jut fine. It's one of the oxymoronic results of the accident. By 2073, It could be even more so, perhaps a higher percentage of para-animals. I could totally see them making it a wild life preserve, or a dragon claiming it or the like.

[Paul]

It might actually surprise you. Right now it's sort of a wild preserve. Tons of animals and stuff live there now.

Seriously? Now I'm going to have to crack open Google Earth and take a look!

[Snow_Fox]

Did the Ukraine take the Rumanian oil fields?

The Transfagarian highway-and does that connect anything?

[Manunancy]

It might actually surprise you. Right now it's sort of a wild preserve. Tons of animals and stuff live there now. in real life mutation doesn't give you superpowers or turn you into a monster. It usually just kills you. (( or is so minor you live ok with out it, if not better, rarely in between. Evolution is basically just minor mutation 'for the better' passed on)) Alot of animals that are endangered or such around the country, live in the Chernobyl area jut fine. It's one of the oxymoronic results of the accident. By 2073, It could be even more so, perhaps a higher percentage of para-animals. I could totally see them making it a wild life preserve, or a dragon claiming it or the like.

Two factor are at play there : most animals are relatively short-lived compared to humans, so they don't have the time to add too much radiation damage, and second a severe mutuation usually means the involved animal dies before gettign achance to pass it to any sort of progeniture. Which means the surviving animals cope rather well with the problem.

The 35 years passed since the disaster have also cleared a lot of the short-lived isotopes, who tends to be the most radioactive of teh lot. Some of the long-lived trash as also been washed out by rain.

[Snow_Fox]

and the rain washed radioactive sludge went... where?

[CanRay]

"Who cares as long as it is away from us and towards the capitalists who wish to steal the food from the very bellies of the workers of the world!"

Just a guess. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Manunancy]

and the rain washed radioactive sludge went... where?

A lot of it is probably now lying into riverbed muck - hopefully spread and diluted enough to be relatively harmless. The rest is likely to have moved down into the ground - which will act as a shield. And fortunately most plants don't suck heavy metals to fix them, so it will tend to stay there.

But i'd rather avoid fish downriver from Chernobyl and wouldn't recommend the area for agriculture.

[Nath]

I could totally see them making it a wild life preserve, or a dragon claiming it or the like.

Great Dragon Alamais should still claim the area as his own (Chernobyl or Чорнобиль is also the Ukrainian name of Artemisia vulgaris, a plant also called Wormwood in English ; this, along with Chernobyl location north of Ukraine/Barsaive, should ring a bell with people knowledgeable about Earthdawn era lore).

[CanRay]

Or the Book of Revelation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)