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post Oct 11 2011, 10:17 PM
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This came up in DamienKnight's Upgraded Character Generator Thread:

What the book says:
QUOTE (Runner's Companion pg. 87)
Not Always Quite Human
Shapeshifters look mostly human—normally. Through
some quirk of magic or paragenetics, some shapeshifters
can transform into a form that more closely resembles another
metatype, or even metavariants. This is represented
by changing their Shift (Human) power to another, as
appropriate—Shift (Elf), Shift (Oni), etc.—and spending an
additional number of BP equal to the typical cost for that
race –10 BP. A shapeshifter with a different metatype gains
their standard metatype abilities (see Metatype Attribute
Table
, p. 72, SR4) when in that form.

The way I read this is that you pay the Shapeshifter metatype cost plus the standard cost of whatever non-human metatype you want, then subtract 10 BP (so a Fox Shifter with Shift (Ork) would be 60 BP total). What you get for the extra BP cost is that metatype's abilities when not in animal form. You do not get any attribute bumps, but retain the Shapeshifter's attributes in both forms.

The way DK has it in his awesome character generator (as of version v) is you pay the full shifter+metatype cost and gain extra abilities including attribute bumps (up and down) as appropriate for the metatype.

So, the question is, which is it? Obviously a GM can rule whatever he and his group like for their own house game.
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- Gamer6432   Shapeshifters and "Not Always Quite Human" Optional Rule   Oct 11 2011, 10:17 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   It's the former. You only get the extras, lik...   Oct 11 2011, 11:42 PM
- - Draco18s   In b4 DK says "I'm still not changing it....   Oct 12 2011, 05:10 AM
- - bibliophile20   I've been playing it as: in animal form, they ...   Oct 12 2011, 05:58 AM
- - Draco18s   A Bear Troll is only 110 BP, and for it they'd...   Oct 12 2011, 12:40 PM
|- - bibliophile20   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 12 2011, 07:40 AM) ...   Oct 12 2011, 03:14 PM
- - DamienKnight   QUOTE (Gamer6432 @ Oct 11 2011, 05:17 PM)...   Oct 12 2011, 02:06 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (DamienKnight @ Oct 12 2011, 10:06 ...   Oct 12 2011, 02:17 PM
- - CanRay   I want to make a Troll Bear Shapeshifter now... J...   Oct 12 2011, 03:16 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 12 2011, 11:16 AM) I ...   Oct 12 2011, 03:30 PM
- - KCKitsune   QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 12 2011, 10:16 AM) ...   Oct 12 2011, 05:04 PM
- - CanRay   Trucks are easier to have around in plain view, an...   Oct 12 2011, 07:04 PM
- - Bodak   QUOTE (Gamer6432 @ Oct 12 2011, 08:17 AM)...   Oct 12 2011, 10:38 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Bodak @ Oct 12 2011, 06:38 PM) You...   Oct 12 2011, 11:10 PM
- - Udoshi   Yeah, BearTrollShifters used to be the cream of th...   Oct 12 2011, 11:00 PM
- - Ol' Scratch   That's from a FAQ, not Errata. It was never m...   Oct 12 2011, 11:07 PM
- - Jhaiisiin   The downside comes when you want to be say... an E...   Oct 19 2011, 07:02 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't call it the same as Elf Poser, but ...   Oct 19 2011, 07:07 PM


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