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post Oct 14 2011, 04:53 PM
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I'm sure this has been debated in great length, so feel free to point me in the right direction but in the 20th Anniversary Edtion on page 150 it says:

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Two gun attacks also negate any dice pool bonuses from smartlinks or laser sights. Additionally, any uncompensated recoil modifiers applicable to one weapon also apply to the other weapon.


Okay some of this I get. But the one thing I guess I'm not wrapping my head around is why does it negate the smartgun link bonus? Beyond game balance, that is?
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- Paul   Dual Weapon's and Smartgun Links   Oct 14 2011, 04:53 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't understand 'beyond game balance...   Oct 14 2011, 04:57 PM
- - Draco18s   QUOTE Dual Weapon's Cough. Dual. Weapons. ...   Oct 14 2011, 05:04 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I mean, give credit for not saying 'duel weapo...   Oct 14 2011, 05:06 PM
- - Paul   Damn spell check. Maybe I should use it....   Oct 14 2011, 05:10 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 14 2011, 12:10 PM) Damn...   Oct 14 2011, 05:11 PM
- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 14 2011, 11:53 AM) Okay...   Oct 14 2011, 05:16 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Warlordtheft @ Oct 14 2011, 10:16 ...   Oct 14 2011, 05:22 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Total Aside: Why're you using cybereyes, thoug...   Oct 14 2011, 05:23 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 10:23 AM...   Oct 14 2011, 05:31 PM
- - Paul   See this is some of where the disconnect is coming...   Oct 14 2011, 05:27 PM
- - Yerameyahu   See, you're just inventing fluff there. Excell...   Oct 14 2011, 05:37 PM
|- - Paul   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 01:37 PM...   Oct 14 2011, 05:39 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 10:37 AM...   Oct 14 2011, 05:52 PM
- - Paul   I've always wondered if that's what the Ma...   Oct 14 2011, 05:39 PM
- - Yerameyahu   The alternative, which is also acceptable, is to a...   Oct 14 2011, 05:42 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I don't think you're correct. AR can be se...   Oct 14 2011, 06:06 PM
- - JonathanC   Smartlink gun cameras are canon, as far as I know,...   Oct 14 2011, 06:19 PM
|- - HunterHerne   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 14 2011, 03:19 PM)...   Oct 14 2011, 06:34 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 14 2011, 09:19 PM)...   Oct 14 2011, 07:56 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 14 2011, 11:56 AM) Witch...   Oct 14 2011, 08:27 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 14 2011, 11:27 PM)...   Oct 14 2011, 09:36 PM
- - Zaranthan   A Smartgun system DOES include a camera, but the b...   Oct 14 2011, 06:30 PM
- - Miri   An Adept with Ambidexterity, Kinesis (in addition ...   Oct 14 2011, 07:15 PM
- - Critias   You scrapped your whole character over two bonus d...   Oct 14 2011, 07:27 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Critias @ Oct 14 2011, 12:27 PM) Y...   Oct 14 2011, 07:31 PM
- - Miri   Yes.. let us hold slavishly to the rules instead o...   Oct 14 2011, 08:35 PM
|- - Draco18s   QUOTE (Miri @ Oct 14 2011, 03:35 PM) Yes....   Oct 14 2011, 08:37 PM
||- - Miri   QUOTE (Draco18s @ Oct 14 2011, 03:37 PM) ...   Oct 14 2011, 08:39 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (Miri @ Oct 14 2011, 03:35 PM) Yes....   Oct 14 2011, 08:49 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Miri @ Oct 14 2011, 12:35 PM) Yes....   Oct 14 2011, 08:55 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 14 2011, 03:55 PM)...   Oct 14 2011, 09:03 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Critias @ Oct 14 2011, 02:03 PM) G...   Oct 14 2011, 09:07 PM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 14 2011, 04:07 PM)...   Oct 14 2011, 09:55 PM
- - Seriously Mike   Oh hell, now you make me want to get two compact l...   Oct 14 2011, 09:55 PM
- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Paul @ Oct 14 2011, 09:53 AM) I...   Oct 14 2011, 10:00 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno, Mäx, I thought I made the some point very...   Oct 14 2011, 10:08 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2011, 01:08 AM...   Oct 14 2011, 10:19 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 14 2011, 02:19 PM) Just ...   Oct 14 2011, 10:41 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Like I said.   Oct 14 2011, 11:24 PM
- - crash2029   I have a question that's related. If you have ...   Oct 15 2011, 01:20 AM
- - CanRay   It's a driver conflict when you have two smart...   Oct 15 2011, 01:24 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's perfectly fine, crash2029.   Oct 15 2011, 02:29 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   Have you ever tried experimenting with this? I ha...   Oct 15 2011, 02:52 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Oh, sure. I'm all for the Additional Target Pe...   Oct 15 2011, 03:00 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   What's the difference between "no bonus...   Oct 15 2011, 03:01 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Consistency, mostly. It also produces different re...   Oct 15 2011, 03:06 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 08:06 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 03:23 AM
- - Saint Hallow   1. the smartgun system on a gun is a combination c...   Oct 15 2011, 03:30 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I bet, based on nothing. Sue me, or show my your p...   Oct 15 2011, 03:30 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 08:30 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 03:49 AM
|- - Saint Hallow   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 11:30 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 04:13 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Are you just projecting, or what? As I said from t...   Oct 15 2011, 04:06 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 09:06 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 04:27 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   QUOTE Having two dots does not *hurt* your aiming ...   Oct 15 2011, 04:21 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I dig it, Saint Hallow, but the smartlink already ...   Oct 15 2011, 04:26 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 09:26 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 04:30 AM
- - Saint Hallow   another good experiment to try is to goto a video ...   Oct 15 2011, 04:27 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Oct 14 2011, 09:27 ...   Oct 15 2011, 04:32 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Oct 15 2011, 07:27 ...   Oct 15 2011, 01:27 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 15 2011, 05:27 AM) I hav...   Oct 15 2011, 02:36 PM
- - Yerameyahu   My game balance argument is that they take away th...   Oct 15 2011, 04:37 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 09:37 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 04:43 AM
- - Yerameyahu   What am I supposed to be defending? I'm makin...   Oct 15 2011, 04:47 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 09:47 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 04:55 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I wasn't asked to confirm any facts. I didn...   Oct 15 2011, 05:04 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 10:04 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 05:55 AM
- - Saint Hallow   I agree with Yerameyahu in that the tech of the sm...   Oct 15 2011, 05:39 AM
- - Ol' Scratch   The smartgun is doing fuck-all about aiming. It...   Oct 15 2011, 05:48 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I didn't say aiming. It's doing the ballis...   Oct 15 2011, 05:52 AM
- - Medicineman   What about using only 1 Weapon with 1 Smartlink in...   Oct 15 2011, 06:00 AM
- - Yerameyahu   JC: It's kind of amazing how every single thin...   Oct 15 2011, 06:04 AM
- - JonathanC   http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypothesis ...   Oct 15 2011, 06:09 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Honestly now. That definition does not match what ...   Oct 15 2011, 06:12 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 10:12 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 06:22 AM
- - Medicineman   My Post was Kinda like a solution for Miri's ...   Oct 15 2011, 06:13 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Medicineman, I dig. That makes sense, because it *...   Oct 15 2011, 06:15 AM
- - Yerameyahu   *sigh* What way are you now talking about? It...   Oct 15 2011, 06:25 AM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 14 2011, 11:25 PM...   Oct 15 2011, 06:35 AM
- - Yerameyahu   And I'm not asking anyone to do so. More preci...   Oct 15 2011, 06:42 AM
- - Saint Hallow   I still like the idea of a houseruled super-expens...   Oct 15 2011, 06:47 AM
- - KarmaInferno   Eh. I happen to agree with Yerameyahu about smartl...   Oct 15 2011, 06:47 AM
- - Yerameyahu   That's always cool, Saint Hallow. If I may, th...   Oct 15 2011, 06:52 AM
- - crash2029   @Yerameyahu- Thanks for answering my question.   Oct 15 2011, 08:04 AM
- - Miri   For all of you arguing that the human mind and bod...   Oct 15 2011, 02:39 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Miri @ Oct 15 2011, 06:39 AM) For ...   Oct 15 2011, 02:51 PM
|- - Miri   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 15 2011, 09:51 AM)...   Oct 15 2011, 02:59 PM
||- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Miri @ Oct 15 2011, 06:59 AM) When...   Oct 15 2011, 03:11 PM
||- - Miri   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 15 2011, 10:11 AM)...   Oct 15 2011, 03:14 PM
|- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 15 2011, 09:51 AM)...   Oct 15 2011, 03:30 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Um, JonathanC, doesn't that mean that the impa...   Oct 15 2011, 02:42 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2011, 06:42 AM...   Oct 15 2011, 02:54 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Always so insulting. I thought it was obvious, bu...   Oct 15 2011, 03:00 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2011, 07:00 AM...   Oct 15 2011, 03:14 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I've addressed that exact point 3 times. You a...   Oct 15 2011, 03:19 PM
|- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2011, 07:19 AM...   Oct 15 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - Miri   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 15 2011, 10:26 AM)...   Oct 15 2011, 03:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   We're tired of you repeating it, too. You...   Oct 15 2011, 03:31 PM
- - JonathanC   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Oct 15 2011, 08:31 AM...   Oct 15 2011, 03:59 PM
- - Miri   QUOTE (JonathanC @ Oct 15 2011, 10:59 AM)...   Oct 15 2011, 04:02 PM
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