Market price of Infected?, Or, weird loot my GM hands out Options

[BishopMcQ]

Really, I think the best bet is to be the nosferatu who recruits shadowrunners to collect people. Then you infect them and send the runners back with a handful of Infected to collect the bounty for. You, as the supplier, take 10% of course. If the heat gets close, you vanish off into the sunset and setup shop a few states over.

[Ascalaphus]

Really, I think the best bet is to be the nosferatu who recruits shadowrunners to collect people. Then you infect them and send the runners back with a handful of Infected to collect the bounty for. You, as the supplier, take 10% of course. If the heat gets close, you vanish off into the sunset and setup shop a few states over.

Is that healthy?

[BishopMcQ]

Tinted windows and it's all good.

[Stalag]

I don't know that I lowballed the bounties, but I don't think making them much higher, given the rarity, was really warranted.

Additionally, in 4e the infected aren't as really as tough as they used to be

[Patrick Goodman]

Working on that bit....

[CanRay]

Working on that bit....

And if that doesn't send a shiver up your back, then Cyberzombie Drop Bears are the least of your concern.

[Patrick Goodman]

Ray, let's just say that Operation: Desparkle has begun, and leave it at that.

[CanRay]

Shadowrun is going to invade the Twilight Universe and beat the living drek out of what they call Vampires?

Bella: "I know what you are."
Ozzy: "Say it. Out loud."
Bella: "...Vampire."
Ozzy: "Vampire? Vampires are pussies. I'm the Prince of fucking Darkness!" - Part Of Ozzy's Intro During His Scream Tour

[Stalag]

Working on that bit....

Well lets not go overboard... don't forget they're playable now too; so juicing up the NPC's would juice up the PC's as well unless you specifically state they aren't (and then explain why)

[Shortstraw]

I don't know Mutaqua are pretty nasty.

[Gerzel]

Wonder if they have bounties in Alaska? The Palin family would be all right.

Not really. Did you see the part of Palin's Alaska where they had her shooting?

[Patrick Goodman]

Well lets not go overboard... don't forget they're playable now too....

I'm also working on that bit.

[Patrick Goodman]

I don't know Mutaqua are pretty nasty.

I tried. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Fortinbras]

Really, I think the best bet is to be the nosferatu who recruits shadowrunners to collect people. Then you infect them and send the runners back with a handful of Infected to collect the bounty for. You, as the supplier, take 10% of course. If the heat gets close, you vanish off into the sunset and setup shop a few states over.

This sounds like a neat idea for a run:

The runners get a call from the Texas Rangers(cops, not baseball) with a job to track down and destroy a Nos crime boss who's been Infecting innocents and turning them in for the bounty. Can the runners track this lord of darkness distribution and his unholy wholesalers before they too become products on the shelf?

Also, I call dibs on the phrase "unholy wholesale."

[Paul]

How does Shadowrun view the process of creating other infected creature's? Is it an intimate process-as it's so often portrayed in popular media? Or no? We don't really make much use of Infected scenarios beyond Ghouls. But then we lived through the introduction of Vampire the Masquerade, and the ascent of Vampires in popular culture-and while it didn't leave the same sort of sour taste that anime did, it's close to being as bad.

[Dr.Rockso]

Bella: "I know what you are."
Ozzy: "Say it. Out loud."
Bella: "...Vampire."
Ozzy: "Vampire? Vampires are pussies. I'm the Prince of fucking Darkness!" - Part Of Ozzy's Intro During His Scream Tour

That was such an awesome tour.

[Patrick Goodman]

Shadowrun is going to invade the Twilight Universe and beat the living drek out of what they call Vampires?

Operation: Desparkle is more about raising and firming up the walls between the two universes. A lot. Like, total separation. Forever. I don't like a lot of what's been done with vampires, et al, so I'm working on fixing some of it.

Some will cheer me. Some will despise me. I'm okay with this.

How does Shadowrun view the process of creating other infected creature's? Is it an intimate process-as it's so often portrayed in popular media? Or no? We don't really make much use of Infected scenarios beyond Ghouls. But then we lived through the introduction of Vampire the Masquerade, and the ascent of Vampires in popular culture-and while it didn't leave the same sort of sour taste that anime did, it's close to being as bad.

There has to be an immediate, emotional connection for the Infection power to do its thing. This is usually accomplished through abject fear, though it can passion or even the sharing of a really, really good joke that gets them both laughing and enjoying each others' company.

It's widely believed that there has to be an exchange of Infected fluid for Type I HMHVV, even among some of the experts. This is not, in fact, the case, although an exchange typically does take place anyway. It's just not necessary to the Infection power working its magic (if you'll excuse the expression). Is it "intimate" as many sources claim? After a fashion, but it's not an orgy as many popular venues would have it.

That answer your question?

[Sengir]

Additionally, in 4e the infected aren't as really as tough as they used to be

Why am I just thinking of hermit and his claims that Infected are the authors' special pets and totally broken? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And add me to the crowd who will despise Patrick, I like them playable.

[Paul]

That answer your question?

Yeah. I pretty much knew what the answer would be. We tend to like our Infected as big bad nasties, so I'm down with making them from a sterner cut.

[Patrick Goodman]

And add me to the crowd who will despise Patrick, I like them playable.

Two things on this:

1. I'm not positive yet that I'll be able to nix playable Infected, much as I'd like to. That negotiation is ongoing.

2. There's a perfectly serviceable game for playing vampires already. It's called Vampire. We don't need playable vampires in Shadowrun, in my opinion.

[Bigity]

While you are rewriting stuff you don't like, go ahead and write Ryan Mercury out of the game as well, or is only stuff you don't like that could possibly need to be changed or ignored?

[Paul]

Not to slow your roll Bigity, but just how would you handle having a say in the game? You'd push my agenda as hard as your own? I mean let's be real here. I may agree or disagree with some of the people writing the game, and their choices-but let's not be a dick about it.

[Bigity]

It's more a question of why it's apparently not ok for someone to ignore the trilogy of novels that provides the 'canon' resolution/cause of D's death at their table, but ok to use a position as a freelancer to change something he dislikes.

[Sengir]

2. There's a perfectly serviceable game for playing vampires already. It's called Vampire. We don't need playable vampires in Shadowrun, in my opinion.

And I'd say you've got the cart before the horse: There are dozens of games without vampires and ghouls for you to peruse. So why insist on changing SR if you don't like what has been part of the setting since Bug City or earlier?

[Irion]

I think everyone has the right to push his or her own agenda. Thats what everybody does anyway.

There are people who think magic should be weaker, there are the once who think it should stay like it is and there are people who think magic should be different altogether.

You can do the same with Ware or the matrix or basicly anything in PnP.

So yeah, there are people who want Shadowrun more CyberPunk and there are the once who want it mor Fantasy and there are the once who want it more Buffy or more Blade style or anything in between.