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> Shadowrun: Our Orks Are Cuter, I think I just got Diabetes.
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:16 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 1 2011, 06:46 AM) *
I'll freely admit that a lot of my characters are given to lined coats, but a lot of them give some individuality to them. Buttons, zippers, chains, airbrushed art, studs and spikes, stuff like that. They also have a few other outfits, some for work, some for personal time. The longcoats are for when they're packing heavy for the most part.


And it's not like a character with a longcoat has to look like a Matrix cosplayer. AFAIK they were always described as being available in many different styles. If anything the text implied more a neo-western style, likening them to old west dusters. I think that's also how longcoats were often depicted in 1E/2E artwork. Though I wonder if they were also partly inspired by Deckard's coat in Blade Runner.

QUOTE (Ol' Scratch @ Nov 1 2011, 07:00 AM) *
I can't remember the last time I saw a "Matrix" stylized character in a game whatsoever.


I guess the Matrix style began to go out of fashion when the sequels were released. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

Actually in my games the "Neo" style very quickly became a sort of running joke as "poser" wear. To the point that a self-respecting character would wear anything but black leather coats and mirrorshades.
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:18 AM
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What's wrong with Mirrorshades?
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 1 2011, 07:18 AM) *
What's wrong with Mirrorshades?


Nothing with mirrorshades as such.

Black clothing is fine on its own. Leather is fine on its own. Coats are fine on their own. Mirrorshades are fine on their own. It's the combination of the elements into the "Neo" look that somehow came across to us as a hackneyed cliché.
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:39 AM
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OK, good. Mirrorshades have a long and honorable tradition in Cyberpunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE (EKBT81 @ Nov 1 2011, 12:27 AM) *
Nothing with mirrorshades as such.

Black clothing is fine on its own. Leather is fine on its own. Coats are fine on their own. Mirrorshades are fine on their own. It's the combination of the elements into the "Neo" look that somehow came across to us as a hackneyed cliché.


What about fingerless gloves?
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:53 AM
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I don't recall Neo wearing those, so I guess you're good to go with my blessing. (Although you'd better be careful about fingerprints.) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As an aside, recently I've looked up the archetypes in the 2E BBB. Some of those come rather close to giving Shortcake a run for her money regarding daring color schemes.
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post Nov 1 2011, 06:04 AM
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I'm just recalling from CP2020 the "affectations" table for character appearance & what the character would wear to make them look "edgy, cyberpunk-cool". Mirrorshades (or gargoyle sunglasses), fingerless gloves, and leather were all listed.
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Yes, now I (dimly) recall those too. I've never played CP2020 but I've read the books for stuff that could be adapted to SR. One of the chromebooks also had a nice set of fashion plates. I guess the 80s vibe was even stronger in CP2020 than in early-edition SR.
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post Nov 1 2011, 06:20 AM
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CP2020 had some awesome gear, cyber, & weapons that should've belonged in SR. I heard someone took the stuff from CP2020 & found a way to convert it for SR 2nd ed. Never got to play it.
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post Nov 1 2011, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Oct 31 2011, 11:20 PM) *
CP2020 had some awesome gear, cyber, & weapons that should've belonged in SR. I heard someone took the stuff from CP2020 & found a way to convert it for SR 2nd ed. Never got to play it.


I think that I have that data somewhere on my system. It was interesting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 1 2011, 04:17 PM
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I know an old website I used to frequent did it the other way. My group played CP2020, but my GM didn't allow "Home Brewed" items. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

"Bad enough that there's Gatling Shotguns." Which, I have to admit, was bad enough... Especially when used on a crowd of hired protestors working for Kibble ("Human Chow" brand, which when you add water makes its own gravy!). We were the ones that hired the protestors, BTW. Made for great TV!
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post Nov 1 2011, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Nov 1 2011, 07:20 AM) *
CP2020 had some awesome gear, cyber, & weapons that should've belonged in SR. I heard someone took the stuff from CP2020 & found a way to convert it for SR 2nd ed. Never got to play it.


I guess that would be Gurth. You can download his SR2 conversions of the Chromebooks and Blackhand’s Street Weapons from the Plastic Warriors website.
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post Nov 1 2011, 06:14 PM
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For my own purposes a middle ground exist's between the Pink Mohawk and Mirror Shades on Leather crowd. Every tool has it purpose, and should be used accordingly. Improvisation is always welcome but why make things more complex than they need to be? I also don't think either is representative of all sides of the issue, nor does either have a monopoly on good times and good humor.
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post Nov 1 2011, 11:39 PM
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Bringing us back to cuter: An online friend of mine got this pic in the mail.
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post Nov 2 2011, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 1 2011, 05:39 PM) *


How..... Disturbing.
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post Nov 2 2011, 05:20 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 1 2011, 06:39 PM) *


I think it's cute... & adds a spin to firearms that hopefully make it more "female friendly". Not that guns need to be, but social morays & all that crap... sometimes making guns more palatable to others is the only way to keep them from being phased out due to some people's reactions to them & how they are portrayed.

2nd thing that went through my mind was if they made a Hello Kitty gun, I wonder if they make Transformers or ThunderCats versions? If the girls get something, why not the boys?
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post Nov 2 2011, 12:45 PM
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They did.

He's called "Megatron", and he's a P-38. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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You should see the reports on how cops are reacting.

There was even an internal police report circulating warning sheriffs to watch for gang members wielding painted assault rifles. It had the picture of one of the Hello Kitty rifles, conveniently leaving out the information that the pictured weapon was perfectly legal and in the custody of a licensed registered owner. It also failed to note that gang members don't USE assault rifles, painted or otherwise, they prefer pistols which can easily be concealed.

They were harassing one firearms modification business that offered painting services, completely failing to consider that they only work on legitimate legal firearms, and criminals wouldn't be using a legit service anyhow.



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post Nov 2 2011, 01:05 PM
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Don't get me started, KI... Really, don't.
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:28 PM
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Pistols can be painted too. Also, you never know when some dumb-ass bangers get the idea to buy themselves an AK or two, just to show off. Hollywood gives them the craziest ideas.
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:32 PM
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Crazy like this?
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post Nov 2 2011, 02:07 PM
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Screw that. You know you want your gun gold plated, diamond studded, and engraved.
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Nov 2 2011, 05:20 AM) *
I think it's cute... & adds a spin to firearms that hopefully make it more "female friendly". Not that guns need to be, but social morays & all that crap... sometimes making guns more palatable to others is the only way to keep them from being phased out due to some people's reactions to them & how they are portrayed.


Maybe its just because of the area I grew up in, but I didn't need a gun painted pink to be interested. I will say, I am not a current gun owner for a myriad of reasons but I would go shooting right this moment without a pink Hello Kitty gun.

The thought of a pink or Hello Kitty emblazoned gun just doesn't appeal to me, and I'm a huge girly girl. Everything I own is basically pink or Hello Kitty, its just doesn't conjugate properly in my head. I would be sorely disappointed if this was the way to bring women into firearms.
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post Nov 2 2011, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Nov 2 2011, 08:07 AM) *
Screw that. You know you want your gun gold plated, diamond studded, and engraved.


That actually hurt my eyes. Horrible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)
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post Nov 2 2011, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Nov 2 2011, 09:52 AM) *
That actually hurt my eyes. Horrible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sarcastic.gif)


Keeping in mind that it was taken with a still camera pointed (poorly) at a CRT television set hooked up to an XBucks.

It's lamentably, the best picture I could find. It's more hilarious when you get the "my gun has a shield!" mod, then pimp the gun. The entire shield gets diamond studs, for no reason.
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