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> Thundercloud Morgan, Somebody didn't think, or am I missing something?
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post Oct 22 2011, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Oct 22 2011, 10:58 AM) *
MPUVs! Are they street legal?

They're just the bastard child of the Jeep, Kubelwagen, and Hummer after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Define "street legal".

One of the things that (IMO) has been making SR less gritty has been the encroachment of "law everywhere". Worse, again IMO, is consistent and equitable law everywhere.

I read the original intent as a patchwork of balkanized corporate-feudal territories within government claimed but anarchically controlled cities and larger states.

So street legal in the barrens may or may not be street legal in cop-heavy locales of the barrens which may or may not be street legal in city/state/nationally "controlled" areas which may or may not be street legal in this, that or the other corp's territory.

Equally, enough money, power, and 'swing' can make almost anything street legal (or not street legal). How much is "enough" depends on where you are.

Now for me, the fact the MPUV is 8 (no R or F) means it's /usually/ going to be street legal, at least in most places. You may have to trick it out to look like an executive ride for some places, it might need different plates or accessories, but basically it's going to be acceptable. Your GM's mileage may vary.
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post Oct 22 2011, 07:48 PM
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The thing is the Thundercloud Morgan does not have Availability of 8 but of - . This means not only that you can get it everywhere in the Barrens, but also in the best controlled corporate environments. The lack of an R behind the availability means that you don't need a license for buying or using this vehicle. So it must be street legal.

There is nothing about law everywhere in SR. The R behind the availablity just tells us that in territories where the law is enforced you will have to be able to produce a license.

BTW what's an MPUV?
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post Oct 22 2011, 08:05 PM
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Military Personnel Utility Vehicle?
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post Oct 22 2011, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Kirk @ Oct 22 2011, 12:48 PM) *
Define "street legal".

Now for me, the fact the MPUV is 8 (no R or F) means it's /usually/ going to be street legal, at least in most places. You may have to trick it out to look like an executive ride for some places, it might need different plates or accessories, but basically it's going to be acceptable. Your GM's mileage may vary.
Like someone owning a Jeep or VW Iltis. I doubt it'll be familiar on the street, but it's cheap and affordable and easily modified. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Probably good for Barrens Driving.

QUOTE (PresentPresence @ Oct 22 2011, 03:05 PM) *
Military Personnel Utility Vehicle?
Yep. It's the Military Jeep of Shadowrun.
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post Oct 22 2011, 11:46 PM
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Having an availability of - doesn't necessarily say much about street legality. It just means it requires no special government approval to acquire or use. I don't need a background check and government approval to buy an ATV, but I typically can't take it onto the city streets.

The MPUV is the "Multi-Purpose Utility Vehicle." It's been the Shadowrun Jeep/HMMWV equivalent for a while. The current incarnation is in MilSpecTech and Runner's Black Book.
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post Oct 23 2011, 01:56 AM
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So you'd probably see it about as often as you would a Jeep in the 1960s and 1970s of the USA...
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:13 AM
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Hey, if it's good enough for MacGyver...




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post Oct 23 2011, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 23 2011, 12:13 AM) *
Hey, if it's good enough for MacGyver...

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Hell, I know someone IRL that has a VW Iltis. Admittedly, he's the owner of my FLGS/Army Surplus store...

I also lived down the street from someone that owned a... Korean-Era Jeep, IIRC, when I first moved here.

Classic cars are regular items on the streets in Summer.
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post Oct 23 2011, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 22 2011, 02:48 PM) *
There is nothing about law everywhere in SR. The R behind the availablity just tells us that in territories where the law is enforced you will have to be able to produce a license.

Urm... Legality, and more specifically the Jurisdiction subsection, page 313, SR4A. The Availability and Legality ratings of items are only for Seattle, UCAS. Anywhere else is GM discretion.
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post Oct 23 2011, 04:28 PM
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OK. Still the R and F letters are only of importance, where (in Seattle) the law is enforced. Nobody will call the authorities if you are driving around in a tank selling smack in the Barrens.
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 23 2011, 06:28 PM) *
OK. Still the R and F letters are only of importance, where (in Seattle) the law is enforced. Nobody will call the authorities if you are driving around in a tank selling smack in the Barrens.

Not if by 'the authorities' you mean KE/LS. You might find yourself in a heap of trouble with local syndicates or even just gangs though. They might care less about the tank, but drug selling is likely encroaching on their turf.
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post Oct 23 2011, 05:47 PM
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Of course I do not mean te local crime syndicates. The R and F in the availability does not mean them either.
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