 Brazilian drug dealer protected by foreign consul, True story |
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 Nov 10 2011, 11:52 AM
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Shooting Target  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437  |
So, I'm trying to find this news in english but can't. You can see it here in portuguese and use the google translator if you wish.
Short version: The police stoped a car owned by the congolese consulate and when asked to open the trunk, the Consul said he had diplomatic immunity, the police said they would escort the car to the Federal Police building and along the way the Consul tried to bribe the police officers. Incredibly (for Brazil's standards) the police officers refused the bribe and arrested the consul, when they opened the trunk, they found one of the main drug dealers of Rio de Janeiro. I can totally see that happening with some Japanese consul hiding a high-ranked Yakuza or even some corp doing the same. |
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Nov 10 2011, 12:37 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
If that vehicle really was carrying diplomatic license plates, I think those cops will be in trouble...
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Nov 10 2011, 12:49 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,989 Joined: 28-July 09 From: Somewhere along the brazilian coast Member No.: 17,437 |
Don't know, honestly. But I think the car didn't have any diplomatic plates.
It was the congolese consul for the Rio de Janeiro, it wasn't actually the ambassador. |
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Nov 10 2011, 01:50 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Consulates don't have the same protective powers as embassies do.
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Nov 10 2011, 02:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
Oh, that's interesting. Not as interesting as the Polish consul in Congo being a spy and trying to scam the president's influential friend on an oil deal, but pretty good anyway.
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Nov 10 2011, 02:17 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Oh, Consulates and Embassies are hotbeds for spies to operate out of.
They're usually a little more circumspect than the Polish one in that story, however. |
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Nov 10 2011, 02:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Brazil Member No.: 15,955 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 10 2011, 03:17 PM)  Oh, Consulates and Embassies are hotbeds for spies to operate out of. They're usually a little more circumspect than the Polish one in that story, however. Honest cops!? HERE?! Where is this world coming to?! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Nov 10 2011, 04:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,632 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Portland Oregon, USA Member No.: 1,304 |
QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Nov 10 2011, 05:37 AM) If that vehicle really was carrying diplomatic license plates, I think those cops will be in trouble... Sure, 'cause Brazil wouldn't want to sour relations with the Congo. Think of all the lost jobs! Diplomatic immunity is a deal between individual nations, and usually stops way short of drug trafficing. |
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Nov 10 2011, 06:41 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
If the big pedia is to be trusted, a ambassador is there to aid the head of state of the nation he represents while the consul is there to help the people.
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Nov 10 2011, 07:01 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
While the Congolese consul or his stuff may be immune to prosecution on some level, kidnapping and/or aiding a fugitive's escape is unlikely to fly. Diplomatic immunity is not the same as being allowed to commit crimes once they've been discovered; if I'm a member of the US mission to China, say, I may not be able to be PROSECUTED for attempting to kidnap someone, but they sure won't let me go ahead and finish kidnapping someone if they catch me in the process.
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Nov 10 2011, 07:23 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Nov 10 2011, 10:09 AM) Diplomatic immunity is a deal between individual nations, and usually stops way short of drug trafficing. And is nowhere near the super magical protective power that movies make it out to be. |
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Nov 10 2011, 07:47 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
Iirc, the Soviets tried to send a tractor, part by part, as diplomatic mail at one point.
Edit: close but not quite, apparently. Seems it was a 9 ton tractor trailer: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2...iplomatic-pouch |
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Nov 10 2011, 08:07 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
oh, and while digging around i found this diplomatic "truck":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-dvYQMSkDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O39t7jmZgW4 Like straight out of a Riggers warehouse... |
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Nov 10 2011, 11:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Nov 10 2011, 08:47 PM) Iirc, the Soviets tried to send a tractor, part by part, as diplomatic mail at one point. Bah. Israelis sent a complete full-sized UZI. Apparently one of our state chiefs of police wanted it in the forensic department's collection (heard that story quite some time ago, but saw the Uzi in question - Hebrew markings and all).As for the deal with Polish consul, it just so happens I wrote about it earlier. That was some good conmanship there, I gotta say. Of course, the consul bailed and set up shop in another African country, but the point is - he tried to screw a powerful guy over, fucked up and yet nobody shoved a machete up his ass. Karma Houdini, kids. |
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Nov 10 2011, 11:53 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Or a case of not wanting to piss off the Polish. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Nov 11 2011, 10:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,088 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Adarael @ Nov 10 2011, 08:01 PM) While the Congolese consul or his stuff may be immune to prosecution on some level, kidnapping and/or aiding a fugitive's escape is unlikely to fly. Diplomatic immunity is not the same as being allowed to commit crimes once they've been discovered; if I'm a member of the US mission to China, say, I may not be able to be PROSECUTED for attempting to kidnap someone, but they sure won't let me go ahead and finish kidnapping someone if they catch me in the process. This. For example, several attempts people being "renditioned" by drugging them and putting them in a crate labeled as diplomatic cargo have been uncovered over the years, of course airport security had the authority to act then. |
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