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 Nov 12 2011, 09:39 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514  |
So we know Chrysler and Nissan merged. So where do you think the rest went? Fiat? GM? Ford? Dodge? Toyota?anything not mentioned. Some is covered in various books-so help me sort out what's where folks and speculate about the fates of the rest!
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Nov 12 2011, 10:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 7-July 08 From: Germany Member No.: 16,124 |
Going back to the Rigger 3 book, Ares bought out GM in 2059. Ford is still independent and is stated to have several European car makers as subsidiaries through the European Motor Company: Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Skoda, Jaguar, Range Rover. (Note: IMO Opel as a Ford subsidiary doesn't make much sense. Opel has been a subsidiary of GM since 1929 and is pretty much GM's only presence in the European market.) Rigger 3 also lists Mazda and Kia as Ford brands. Daimler-Benz is a subsidiary of C-N. C-N also took over Toyota in 2060.
According to SoE Renault and FIAT merged and are one of the big Euro-AAs. All of that is 3rd ed. information. IIRC one of the 4th ed. books stated that SK acquired Volkswagen. |
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Nov 13 2011, 12:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
Hmh, I thought that S-K owns Daimler-Benz too.
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Nov 13 2011, 03:48 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
See some of that I knew but after 20 plus years of this game sometimes the information is jumbled around! I'll have some time later tomorrow to start organizing this information! Thanks. So what else folks? Come on speculate! Don't be afraid! Make an ad for Augmented Reality!
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Nov 13 2011, 09:13 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
So, who owns AMC? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Nov 13 2011, 09:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 675 Joined: 21-March 09 Member No.: 17,002 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 13 2011, 11:13 PM)  So, who owns AMC? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Chrysler Corporation |
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Nov 15 2011, 11:45 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 13 2011, 01:13 PM) So, who owns AMC? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Gremlins do |
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Nov 15 2011, 11:46 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
7000 posters and we get what? 5 replies. C'mon where's the fabled legions of Dumpshock?
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Nov 15 2011, 11:48 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 15 2011, 03:46 PM) 7000 posters and we get what? 5 replies. C'mon where's the fabled legions of Dumpshock? Oh this absolutely par for the course, brief flurries of activity, 1-5 useful posts then derailment |
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Nov 16 2011, 12:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 13-February 10 Member No.: 18,155 |
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Nov 15 2011, 03:48 PM) Oh this absolutely par for the course, brief flurries of activity, 1-5 useful posts then derailment This guy knows whats up. |
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Nov 16 2011, 07:40 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
There are not som many car companies around, and Rigger 3 and a few other books already gave the rundown.
Ares Macrotechnology owns General Motors, with GMC, Buick, Cadillac, Pontiac brands (Corporate Download, Rigger 3) Chrysler-Nissan owns Daimler, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota (Rigger 3, Shadows of Asia) Eastern Tiger Corporation owns Hyundai (Shadows of Asia) Ford owns DAF, Jaguar, Kia, Lancia, Mazda, Opel, Peugeot-Citroën, Ranger Rover, Skoda (Germany SB, Rigger 3) Renault-Fiat owns Dacia, Ferrari, Fiat, Renault (Shadows of Europe) Saeder-Krupp owns BMW, Volkswagen (Corporate Download, Rigger 3, Corporate Guide) Wuxing owns SsangYong, renamed ESSY (Corporate Guide) Honda, Mitsubishi, Saab remain independents (Rigger 3, Shadows of Europe) The largest RL car companies whose fate is not yet known are Suzuki, AvtoVAZ (Lada) and Chinese and Indian companies you never heard off (though, IRL, Renault already owns 25% of AvtoVAZ). |
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Nov 16 2011, 07:48 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Thanks!
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Nov 16 2011, 10:05 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
And Ford may, or may not, be owned by offshore accounts. (One of the Rigger books.).
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Nov 17 2011, 08:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Nov 16 2011, 08:40 PM) Ares Macrotechnology owns General Motors, with GMC, Buick, Cadillac, Pontiac brands (Corporate Download, Rigger 3) Chrysler-Nissan owns Daimler, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota (Rigger 3, Shadows of Asia) Eastern Tiger Corporation owns Hyundai (Shadows of Asia) Ford owns DAF, Jaguar, Kia, Lancia, Mazda, Opel, Peugeot-Citroën, Ranger Rover, Skoda (Germany SB, Rigger 3) Renault-Fiat owns Dacia, Ferrari, Fiat, Renault (Shadows of Europe) Saeder-Krupp owns BMW, Volkswagen (Corporate Download, Rigger 3, Corporate Guide) Wuxing owns SsangYong, renamed ESSY (Corporate Guide) Honda, Mitsubishi, Saab remain independents (Rigger 3, Shadows of Europe) So Chrysler-Nissan does indeed own Mercedes, Ford own SEAT, S-K owns Porsche and Wuxing owns Daewoo (if whoever owns Chevrolet didn't get them in a package deal). Anyway, who owns Chevrolet? I'd guess C-N or Wuxing, leaning more towards C-N. |
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Nov 17 2011, 02:27 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Shadow Talk in the original Riggers BB said that Ford was owned out of the Carib league. I think it was the entry for the Ford Americar, my copy wasl ost recently.
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Nov 17 2011, 02:38 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I have mine on the shelf, I'll see if I can find that and come back to this thread.
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Nov 17 2011, 07:13 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Nov 17 2011, 12:01 AM) Anyway, who owns Chevrolet? I'd guess C-N or Wuxing, leaning more towards C-N. ARES does, Chevrolet is the flagship brand of GM |
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