Shadows of Europe, Coming soon... |
Shadows of Europe, Coming soon... |
Apr 6 2004, 08:28 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Since I know there are those who've been waiting patiently for Shadows of Europe for a very long time now, and since the German crowd have already been let in through the FanPro D April newsletter, here goes the latest update.
The good news is the book is finished proofing and is undergoing final tweaks before being sent off to press. The other good news is that during layout it turned out it that to fit all the material it was going to have to be a bigger volume than originally predicted - so SoE should number a thick 240 pages(!) of all new material on the New Old World. Hope that makes up for the wait. |
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Apr 6 2004, 09:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
I have to say, this is good news. Now I really can't wait for it to be released.
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Apr 6 2004, 09:41 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,182 |
Yay. I like meaty tomes. Any chance of there being any Shadowrun hardbacks in the future?
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Apr 6 2004, 09:53 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yes--available at your local Kinko's!
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Apr 6 2004, 01:24 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,182 |
What is Kinkos?
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Apr 6 2004, 01:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 26-March 04 From: Houston Member No.: 6,197 |
A full-service photocopy, video conferencing, etc. place.
Sorry. He's referencing shops you don't have. |
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Apr 6 2004, 01:56 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
The chance of a SR3 hardback is exceptionally slim, due to the economics of printing and how many copies could reasonably be sold to recoup those costs - especially considering SR3 is six years old.
[I know you're gonna jump up and down and go "But I'd buy one and so would lots of people on Dumpshock!", but by virtue of caring enough about Shadowrun to talk about it on the internet, you are not the average SR fan. ;-)] |
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Apr 6 2004, 02:53 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Thats quite possibly the best argument I have ever seen around here. |
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Apr 6 2004, 02:54 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
lol! |
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Apr 6 2004, 02:58 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
It may have been phrased badly, but I think I got my point across - you can't use the hardcore fans as a barometer for what will be popular, because they're bound to have strong feelings one way or another. Look at the difference between the Shadowrun d20 threads that came about after our April Fools joke; on Dumpshock, people were widely against it. On RPG.net and ENWorld, people generally thought it would be a good to great move for FanPro.
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Apr 6 2004, 03:23 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
No, I was serious. It made perfect sense to me. The fact that we all spend our time shooting the breese about this stuff makes us more inclince than the average RPer to be interested in a product like that.
Hell, I'll go you one better. I'd bet the majority of Dumpshockers wouldn't buy a hardcover for a variety of reasons. Say there's 5000+ DSers. Not all of those are active. And even of the ones that are, most woundn't/couldn't because of the cost, etc... Crap. See? Thats why I liked yours better. It was clear, brief, and to the point. Mine rambled on... |
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Apr 6 2004, 04:10 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
:love: 240 pages... that makes it Shadowrun's largest sourcebook ever, right? :love:
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Apr 6 2004, 06:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
Here in Germany all SR rulebooks (1st, 2nd and 3rd Edition) are hardcovers...
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Apr 6 2004, 06:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
If you don't count Deutschland in den Schatten 2 (344 pages)... |
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Apr 6 2004, 08:39 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Nobody likes a braggart. :D |
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Apr 7 2004, 06:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625 |
1st, 2nd and 3rd edition had hardcover and softcover english versions to, I ought to know since I own one of each. About SoE; Yay! Soooooooon ... |
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Apr 7 2004, 05:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UCAS Member No.: 1,015 |
Newsflash: People who play D20 applaud RPG that converts to D20 In other news: I encourage everyone to drink Coke so I will never find myself in an establishment that serves only Pepsi. (I see your point, though) |
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Apr 7 2004, 11:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 5-March 04 From: UK Member No.: 6,125 |
COKE??? I really prefer Pepsi. (actually, I prefer Virgin Cola but I am not sure you even know what I am on about)
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Apr 8 2004, 02:01 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 2-April 04 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,214 |
On the :nuyen: side, will the book be more pricy?
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Apr 8 2004, 04:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Hey MYSTIC the only reason DIDS II is so thick is because its written in German. Talk about a language with long words... :)
Anyhow, I bet if you ask TW and the other German FANPRO freelancers nicely they'll translate it all back again. I bet that'll beat the pagecount contest. :D |
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Apr 8 2004, 04:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 2,032 |
Virgin coke is nice, but about the only place I ever go that sells it is when I take virgin trains (which I do around twice per year, once there and once back) |
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Apr 8 2004, 04:55 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I play d20, and I think converting SR would be a TERRIBLE idea.
d20 is kinda nifty, it's useful to have a system that lots of people know, especially if you're trying to start a new game, but it is hardly the ultimate state of enlightenment for all RPG's, as some seem to think. |
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Apr 8 2004, 05:02 PM
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The Sewer Jockey Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 857 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Kent, United Kingdom Member No.: 1,197 |
Man, that's nasty... IMHO Virgin is rancid. The cola, that is... Pepsi is a winner every day! Woohoo! But to VASTLY more important things, BIG UP THE SoE BOYS! THANKS!!! |
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Apr 8 2004, 10:21 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
For cola, it really depends on what ypu're having with it. Coke has a sharper more lemony taste whilst Pepsi a softer more mellow flavour to it. Not that I drink a lot of the stuff or anything. :)
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Apr 8 2004, 10:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 27-January 04 Member No.: 6,025 |
Who ever heard of a Whisky-Pepsi? :lick:
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