Elemental Effect Ammunition, A slight brainfart from me with ammunition. Options

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I agree on the increased penetration, that was an oversight – My reasoning was using it against beings with weakness to light. And there would be no coating, the entire round would be magnesium.

Which would go up inside the barrel. Magnesium burns ferociously fast (though maybe not fast enough).

Thermite was my thought first but I swiped the info for what Dragon Breath rounds usually include from the wiki. I’ve no idea if the weapon could literally melt if it was exposed to Thermite blasting out of the barrel for 3-5 seconds.

Yes, your gun would melt in the first Second or so. Thermite is a mite vicious.

[Draco18s]

Which would go up inside the barrel. Magnesium burns ferociously fast (though maybe not fast enough).

Magnesium burns quickly, but not that quickly. I've played around with magnesium strips in chemistry class. You can hold a 2 inch strip and set the other end on fire without worrying about hurting yourself. You've got time to go "that's getting close" and drop it.

And chemistry dictates that a magnesium strip would burn faster than a 1 gram chunk shaped like a bullet (more surface area to volume).

[Xahn Borealis]

I've played around with magnesium strips in chemistry class. You can hold a 2 inch strip and set the other end on fire without worrying about hurting yourself. You've got time to go "that's getting close" and drop it.

Unless you get Glare modifiers upsetting your Perception DP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Magnesium burns quickly, but not that quickly. I've played around with magnesium strips in chemistry class. You can hold a 2 inch strip and set the other end on fire without worrying about hurting yourself. You've got time to go "that's getting close" and drop it.

And chemistry dictates that a magnesium strip would burn faster than a 1 gram chunk shaped like a bullet (more surface area to volume).

Thanks for the Info, I am 20+ Years removed from basic Chemistry. I remember it burned fairly quickly, just not how fast. DO you remember how hot magnesium burns? It does not take too much over the tolerance to ruin the temper on a gun. I have burned out many a barrel with just converntional rounds, let alone something potentially like a Magnesium (or heaven forbid, a Thermite) Round.

[Draco18s]

Thanks for the Info, I am 20+ Years removed from basic Chemistry. I remember it burned fairly quickly, just not how fast. DO you remember how hot magnesium burns? It does not take too much over the tolerance to ruin the temper on a gun. I have burned out many a barrel with just converntional rounds, let alone something potentially like a Magnesium (or heaven forbid, a Thermite) Round.

4000 F or so, IIRC. Hot enough to ignite thermite (which is why I still have a 12 inch strip of the stuff.....somewhere, although I never did make any thermite).

Wikipedia says that it can get up to 5100 or so, depending on the alloy.

And yes, that is hot enough to melt steel.

[CanRay]

All I know is that we played with it the first day of Chemistry Class, to ensure that the students didn't try to make black powder or nitro...

Ah, living in a mining town.

[Yerameyahu]

I mostly assume that, if it was a good idea for a bullet, it would already exist. People are pretty clever, greedy, and bloodthirsty. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[bibliophile20]

If I were to use some of these in my game--IF--I would going under the assumption that these are specialty ammunition that are the sort of thing cooked up in nano-forges, and then set availability and price accordingly--as well as the fluff.

For example, for the Fire and Ice type rounds, instead of liquid nitrogen or magnesium (or Thermite!) I'd have packed into the payload the sort of chemicals that react happily and energetically with water--the stuff that makes up living tissue--and produce exothermic or endothermic reactions as a result. Sort of like those instant cold packs--on steroids and taken to 11.

But the only reason it's possible to even load that sort of into a bullet is because now you can have nanoware build those bullets up on the microscopic level; these things wouldn't be "lead poured into a mold" they'd be on the level of "inside this metal slug that's less than three-quarters of an inch across, there are no less than 30 individually engineered partitions and compartments containing the payload, all created to within 5 micrometers tolerance."

[Draco18s]

For example, for the Fire and Ice type rounds, instead of liquid nitrogen or magnesium (or Thermite!) I'd have packed into the payload the sort of chemicals that react happily and energetically with water--the stuff that makes up living tissue--and produce exothermic or endothermic reactions as a result. Sort of like those instant cold packs--on steroids and taken to 11.

Boy, do I have an amp for you! This one goes to 12!

But the only reason it's possible to even load that sort of into a bullet is because now you can have nanoware build those bullets up on the microscopic level; these things wouldn't be "lead poured into a mold" they'd be on the level of "inside this metal slug that's less than three-quarters of an inch across, there are no less than 30 individually engineered partitions and compartments containing the payload, all created to within 5 micrometers tolerance."

Given the posting about the spider silk microneedles, I'm pretty sure we could pour-forge some of those and not need nanites.