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 Apr 7 2004, 07:23 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 2-November 03 Member No.: 5,781  |
Hi I was wondering what the official policy dealing with Gay and Lesbians in the Shadowrun setting, I mean I've got a Lesbian Elf runner character that I'm working on.
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Apr 7 2004, 07:26 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 |
Policy? What the hell?
I guess it's the same policy as playing an African-American runner. Or a Caucasian runner. Or one with red hair. Or blue eyes. Or one who likes to wear tennis shoes. Or prefers soykaf to coffee. |
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Apr 7 2004, 07:28 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
We have a policy? No one ever shows me these damn things. When the hell did we get a policy?
I feel like I missed a meeting. |
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Apr 7 2004, 07:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
If there's a policy I think it needs to be handled on a group basis. Of course, no one in our group has ever cared. Although we've never had a gay character that I recall, just lesbians... Interesting, huh?
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Apr 7 2004, 07:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Page 49 or so of Sprawl Survival Guide deals a little with this.
Under the section "Love without boundaries". In the world of SR 2063, gender based-sexuality issues that's considered a hot topics in real life 2004, isn't a big deal. People are less concerned with things such as homosexuality, but are a bit more concerned with inter-meta-racial type relationships. 2 homosexual men or women will not get as hassled as much as say a male troll and female elf in a relationship. |
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Apr 7 2004, 07:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Don't even get started on those that love shapeshifters or free spirits or other unrecognized sentient beings!
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Apr 7 2004, 08:03 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,311 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Calgary, Alberta Member No.: 2,062 |
I happen to know an extremely competant gay GM and have played with a pair of gay runners, and a small smattering of lesbians. It didn't really seem to make a difference. Actually, both of the gay runners were CLUEless, but I don't think that had anything to do with their sexual orientation. I see no need for a policy. |
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Apr 7 2004, 08:28 AM
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Harlequin Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861 |
You mean you missed the January meeting? Not only did we draw up rules for gay/lesbian runners, but also if you can **** *** with you ally spirit or not. :D Back on topic. Except what they wrote in SSG, there has been no mention about gay/lesbian stuff at all. But I figure that it depends on where you are. In Seattle, no prob. The Vatican, then you'd better have your running shoes on. Just because there's a bunch of metas running around that doesn't mean that all "old" prejudice will be gone, although it might have a bit lower priority. |
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Apr 7 2004, 08:35 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Isn't the guy playing the lesbian elf chick a badly worn cliche?
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Apr 7 2004, 08:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Yeah, but if you haven't played with at least one of them, you haven't played Shadowrun.
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Apr 7 2004, 08:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 476 Joined: 30-December 03 From: Fresno, CFS: taking out one durned furriner at a time. Member No.: 5,940 |
Least it's not Aberrant.
MY GOD! DIVIS MAL HAS ARMS! |
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Apr 7 2004, 09:23 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i'm proud to say that i've never played shadowrun. at least, according to connor's definition.
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Apr 7 2004, 10:36 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
As I recall the policy, I think Lesbian Elf Chick PCs are required to... *Have DD-cup breasts (or are DDs for Lesbian Human Chick PCs?) *Wear tight leather clothing *Riding crops, high heels, and leather Nazi caps are popular but optional *All contacts (including gangs and buddies) must also be Lesbian Chicks, preferably ones that the PC has many meaningless sexual encounters with *And...it must be because I just woke up. I ferget the other parts of the policy. Anyway, I heartily recommend ignoring the policy. (Or do I mean "cliche," not "policy"?) |
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Apr 7 2004, 11:08 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
getting a picture of a popular model/actress is also strongly advised; otherwise, your fellow players may retain doubts about how hot your lesbian is. also, at every opportunity, you must describe in great detail exactly what makes your lesbian so hot, paying special attention to the enhancing effects of tight clothing and the fact that, gosh, it must be chilly in here or something.
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Apr 7 2004, 12:05 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 7-July 02 From: The Bubble Member No.: 2,944 |
I did play a lesbian for one session once, but she was a butch ork mercenary who actually passed quite successfully for a man in most situations.
Does that mean I've almost played Shadowrun? :D |
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 Apr 7 2004, 12:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 639 |
I think I read somewhere that the Imperial Marine in San Fan had biases against homosexuality as well as against metahumanity.
hell, I guess they had biases agaisnt anyone not an heterosexual japanese human (male)... |
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Apr 7 2004, 01:35 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I had a Face that for one of his aliases acted the stereotypical over the top flamer to work the biases that that comes with to his favour.
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Apr 7 2004, 01:47 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Don't forget that Elf Lesbians are usually ASSASSINS. Oooooo.....And may or may not be part time strippers and alomost always are dating or "very close" to one or more strippers.
BTW, I think DD is for human lesbians. Elf can by w/ "just" a D or even a C if she's the "athletic assassin". (as opposed to the "prosthetic assassin") :D |
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Apr 7 2004, 01:48 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Yeah, Im prety sure everyone has done that. But as for the 2063 social aspect, well there are more pressing issues. Id put money saying someone somewhere wants to ban marrige between metaraces. Or at least dikoated ally sprits...
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Apr 7 2004, 02:02 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
Yes. Playing a butch troll lesbian would be much more entertaining, however. Oddly enough, the group I used to play with had lots of gay or "metrosexual" characters but never any lesbians. Go figure. |
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Apr 7 2004, 02:05 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
I know SR has a lot fo rules but do we need rules for this?
I also guess I haven't played SR either, none of our group have played lesbians. We had a real lesbain play once but played a straight character, I guess you play to act out something you are not. :D |
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Apr 7 2004, 02:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 5-March 04 From: UK Member No.: 6,125 |
That is a disturbing image. Something about the size difference. I mean, does a troll 'pack more meat' than a normal human? |
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Apr 7 2004, 02:28 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
Did you see the April 1st "D20 Shadowrun" webpage? They had pictures of nude males of the standard (meta)human races. The strategic black box over the troll said something to the effect of "error: buffer overload" while the black box over the human was something like, "error: nothing unusual here." |
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Apr 7 2004, 03:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 3-April 03 Member No.: 4,370 |
and the message for the dwarf said "error: buffer not found" harsh, eh? :)
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Apr 7 2004, 03:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Usually under a cat Member No.: 864 |
L.D wrote:
Back on topic. Except what they wrote in SSG, there has been no mention about gay/lesbian stuff at all. Has anybody mentioned this to Talon? Seeing as how the main character in several SR novels is gay and nobody seems to make a big deal about it, the "policy" seems to be that it's no big deal. |
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