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post Nov 11 2012, 11:54 PM
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No, i was wrong, it's not an MMO, there were plans to do it, but because of the whole legalese hassle, nobody really did it . . even if some people got started on one . . several times actually . .
And interplay only has the license to sell fallout 1, fallout 2 and i think maybe fallout tactics untill december 31st 2012 . . afterwards, all rights are completely in bethesdas side of the court . .
And the game i was thinking of, with MIT and Boston, is F4 it seems.
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post Nov 12 2012, 12:37 AM
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I would love to see an F3/FNV total-conversion remake of the first two Fallout titles. Love, love, LOVE to see that.
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:51 AM
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everybody would, but that is impossible to do . .
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post Nov 12 2012, 12:05 PM
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Nah, it's not impossible. It'd just be a whole HELL of a lot of work, plus the difficulty of securing the rights to it all. But if you got those rights, had the ability to create teh art assets needed, and could/would/did put in the time necessary to build all the locations and script all the content .... it's certaily possible.

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I'd pay $40 or $50 for a F1/F2 conversion built on FNV's base. Maybe more.
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post Nov 12 2012, 01:48 PM
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I'd rather see the turn-based Fallout games stay exactly that thanks. The new ones don't do it for me.
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post Nov 12 2012, 02:07 PM
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*nods* i kinda miss that too . .
which is why i have high hopes in srr and wasteland 2 . . no idea how they are going to work with sro . .
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post Nov 12 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity @ Nov 12 2012, 08:48 AM) *
I'd rather see the turn-based Fallout games stay exactly that thanks. The new ones don't do it for me.

Hey, I liked them too. But the new, first-person Fallouts do work just fine for me, and I'd love to revisit the old haunts, without having to revisit the old bugs, and while enjoying all the things my modern GPU is capable of. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 12 2012, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Nov 11 2012, 07:24 PM) *
Bethesda isn't planning an MMO Fallout, Interplay should still retain the rights to it.
Not any more. They had to show they were working on it, and were unable to do so in front of a Judge when they fought to get the IP back. (It's a long, convoluted story.).

So any Fallout stuff we see will be from Bethesda, and will likely be single-player, which makes me happy.
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post Nov 12 2012, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 12 2012, 12:56 PM) *
Not any more. They had to show they were working on it, and were unable to do so in front of a Judge when they fought to get the IP back. (It's a long, convoluted story.).

So any Fallout stuff we see will be from Bethesda, and will likely be single-player, which makes me happy.


I knew about the lawsuit, hadn't heard that they were unable to provide evidence of work on the project. I'm happy that Bethesda has the rights then as I've enjoyed their first person installments of the series. Even if I am looking more forward to Wasteland 2 than Fallout 4.
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:04 PM
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You know... Every time I think of Fallout 4, I like to joke to myself that it'll take place in the snow-covered ruins of New York City or some other east coast city, just so they can reuse stuff that was developed for Skyrim. Wouldn't be such a bad thing far as I'm concerned. Less potato faces and more dual-wielding plasma pistols!
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (Rastus @ Nov 12 2012, 02:04 PM) *
You know... Every time I think of Fallout 4, I like to joke to myself that it'll take place in the snow-covered ruins of New York City or some other east coast city, just so they can reuse stuff that was developed for Skyrim. Wouldn't be such a bad thing far as I'm concerned. Less potato faces and more dual-wielding plasma pistols!


I'd rather they keep it Pacific oriented, but that leaves plenty of parts of California that snow, or if it's further in the timeline and assumes that the NCR still exists and has expanded, perhaps in Colorado.
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Nov 12 2012, 06:13 PM) *
I'd rather they keep it Pacific oriented, but that leaves plenty of parts of California that snow, or if it's further in the timeline and assumes that the NCR still exists and has expanded, perhaps in Colorado.
Jacobstown looked like a nice place to live.

Even Deathclaws wouldn't hassle you there!
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:31 PM
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Well, the talking deathclaws were nice too . .
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post Nov 12 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Nov 12 2012, 02:31 PM) *
Well, the talking deathclaws were nice too . .


The talking deathclaws in V13 are all dead (save for maybe Goris, depending on how long Deathclaws live). What other ones were there?
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:04 PM
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none sadly . .
they cut off a good hook with them.
same with the robots in tactics.
and in F3 the enclave . .
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Rastus @ Nov 12 2012, 05:04 PM) *
You know... Every time I think of Fallout 4, I like to joke to myself that it'll take place in the snow-covered ruins of New York City or some other east coast city, just so they can reuse stuff that was developed for Skyrim. Wouldn't be such a bad thing far as I'm concerned. Less potato faces and more dual-wielding plasma pistols!


... Boston, maybe. Gets more snow than NYC. Has some interesting features around it, that could be incorporated into the map (speaking of the map, I'm hoping for Skyrim-esque expansiveness. FNV was a nice size, but even it was awfully cramped, IMO).

The Navy Yards in Charlestown (and whatever twisted parody of the U.S.S. Constitution they put in there) would be interesting to visit.

There's also a plethora of old forts and other military installations in the immediate area - Fort Independance on Castle Island; Fort Warren on George's Island; Fort Andrews on Peddocks Island - and a namesake, but very separate, Fort Andrew in Plymouth, MA; Fort Banks in Winthrop (the Command Post for Boston Harbor Defense in WW2; later the site of Nike SAM batteries in the 1950s); Fort Heath on Grover's Cliff in Winthrop (the Air-Defense command post for Boston Harbor in the 1960s); Fort Revere in Hull; Fort Strong on Long Island (in Boston Harbor, not the big New York one!); the Watertown Arsenal (in use until 1968) ...

Yeah, pretty extensive list to choose from. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Any one of them could become the center for a strong, well-defended community. Or a band of raiders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 12 2012, 11:23 PM
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MIT.
Brotherhood.
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post Nov 12 2012, 11:41 PM
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Definitely yes.

Also, McLean Hospital (psychiatric hospital with sprawling, wooded grounds and a dozen or more buildings). And Harvard, too.
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post Nov 13 2012, 12:12 AM
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Philadelphia. The home of liberty, and birthplace of America. Be a great place to end it.

Anyway, Interplay sub-licensed out the MMO to another company, and that company still has legal rights to make it, but Interplay doesn't. It's wierd.

Further, 'Interplay' is Chuck Cueves. The asshole who got attatched to multiple products that no one really liked, and the same guy who gutted the company both literally (he started carrying computers out of the building) and figuratively.
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post Nov 13 2012, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (almost normal @ Nov 12 2012, 07:12 PM) *
Philadelphia. The home of liberty, and birthplace of America. Be a great place to end it.

.... why do you want to END the Fallout franchise?!?

Also, Philadelphia is not IMO "the birthplace of America". That would be Massachusetts, and especially Lexington Green. "Short heard 'round the world" and all that, yeah?

Philly is certainly the birthplace of the Constitution, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 13 2012, 12:55 AM
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Give me a blown out Los Angeles County through Orange County to sift through. The furthest south we really got in FO1 was Bakersfield (which was Necropolis). Although Adytum/Boneyard was supposed to be part of LA.
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Nov 12 2012, 07:35 PM) *
.... why do you want to END the Fallout franchise?!?


In my opinion (being a big fan of the first two games) Bethesda butchered FO. NV was good, but they also had the original team work on it, so, it made sense that it was good. I'd rather see it stay dead then mutilated further.

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Also, Philadelphia is not IMO "the birthplace of America".


I mean, there's other places to claim it. Virginia, for instance. But going into google, the internet seems to agree with my personal visits to the area, Philadelphia is the birthplace of America. Still, i'm in no mood to start a dick swinging fight.
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post Nov 13 2012, 03:37 AM
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QUOTE (almost normal @ Nov 12 2012, 10:09 PM) *
In my opinion (being a big fan of the first two games) Bethesda butchered FO. NV was good, but they also had the original team work on it, so, it made sense that it was good. I'd rather see it stay dead then mutilated further.

I'm a huge fan of FO1, and of FO2. I am also a huge fan of FO3, and FNV. I like the FPS approach, and while FO3 is an admittedly rocky start to the franchise, I thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless.


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I mean, there's other places to claim it. Virginia, for instance. But going into google, the internet seems to agree with my personal visits to the area, Philadelphia is the birthplace of America.

*shrug* Maybe my opinion is based on actually standing on the same street-corners where things like Patrick Henry's "give me Liberty, or give me Death" speech happened; ducking through doors in Paul Revere's own home; walking on the grass where the first shots of the Revolution were fired. To me, that's where "America" was born.

Philadelphia certainly has the distinction of being where the First Continental Congress convened, and where the Declaration of Independence was penned.

But I value blood a bit higher than ink, so for my part I shall go with "where the first patriots put their lives on the line to fight British oppression with blood and steel" as the proper birthplace of the Nation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Still, i'm in no mood to start a dick swinging fight.

Nor am I. What, I can't disagree without it being a fight? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Nov 13 2012, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Nov 12 2012, 11:37 PM) *
Nor am I. What, I can't disagree without it being a fight? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
This is the Internet, it has to be a fight, because SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I played the original two games afore I played FO3, and despite a few reservations (Mostly about the glitchy engine), I like all forms of it. The FPS version gives a better immersion for the character in my mind, but the 3/4 view allows for better tactical control.

I've just played Fallout 3/NV to death, and really need a distraction right now...
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post Nov 13 2012, 05:10 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 12 2012, 08:19 PM) *
This is the Internet, it has to be a fight, because SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I played the original two games afore I played FO3, and despite a few reservations (Mostly about the glitchy engine), I like all forms of it. The FPS version gives a better immersion for the character in my mind, but the 3/4 view allows for better tactical control.

I've just played Fallout 3/NV to death, and really need a distraction right now...


Were you playing it on the PC with JE Sawyer's mod that I had linked previously? The wasteland will never feel safe again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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