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> Snake-eyes + Skillwires, Has anyone considered this?
Lilt
post Apr 7 2004, 08:21 PM
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A Snake-eyes system allows a rigger to percieve all of the senses of a character, and even 'jump-into' the character as he might a drone, but not 'pilot' the character remotely. This got me thinking about how it could be possible for a character to be piloted remotely, and the obvious (to me anyway) choice for 'ware to control a character's actions is a Skillwires system.

Do you think this would be possible? I was thinking about making a special skillsoft which interprets data from the character and turns it into skillwire actions. The rigging character's skill usage would be limited to the rating of the skillsoft, and the rigging character is unable to use the rigged character's skills. Does that all seem reasonable? Perhaps too harsh as there are no limits imposed on skill use through drones?
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post Apr 7 2004, 08:33 PM
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Skillwires, IRRC, need time to work. You have to practice with them, so your muscles can "learn" the movements, for active skills. So jumping into someone with skillwires might not work because the character's muscles are untrained at best, and able to resist at worst. Also, could this kind of action override a person's sense of self preservation, say if it worked and you asked someone to pee on a troll? Or jump off a building. Both carry a great risk of harm, and I would think the person would be able to consciously resist in some fashion
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post Apr 7 2004, 08:47 PM
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With skillwires you just plug the chip in and away you go. No learning time.
I would assume that in the same way a character can enable/disable skillsofts, they can enable/disable the installed skillsoft.
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post Apr 7 2004, 09:04 PM
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I read this topic and had a totally different notion.

The rigger in the armored uber-van watches the teams desperate battle through his buddy's Snake-eyes link, and suddenly he notices a spike launcher in the corner, dropped by an opponent. Before his buddy reaches the weapon, the rigger has already whipped out a Launch Weapons skillsoft and loaded it into his buddy's headware memory by radio.

Pretty much exactly like The Matrix.
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post Apr 7 2004, 10:42 PM
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I like Zazen's idea. It was kicked around on ShadowrunRB a while back.

Hey Lilt what about adding cyberlegs or arms to your idea?
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post Apr 7 2004, 11:11 PM
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Add cyberarms and legs in what way?
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post Apr 7 2004, 11:15 PM
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So a really expensive, Essence-unfriendly means of duplicating a Skillsoft Jukebox and BattleTac Link? Pass. :)
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post Apr 7 2004, 11:38 PM
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Well: a number of other questions could be based on this question. The Snakeyes package can also transmit more than just the Cyberlink can on its own, and can be used to make cheap porno flicks in your spare time. It has other advantages too, like the fact that you can record sensory data at will (doubling as an opticam or ear recorder). Also: the Snake-Eyes system is cheaper than a baseline simrig, and the Full-X snakeyes system is cheaper and takes less essence than some of the hardware it contains.

There are also a number of related questions to this topic: Can someone be run by a pilot-rating-like skillsoft? If someone had a remote connection, skillwires, and a pilot program: Could they have their meatbod function (either rigged or piloted by a program) while they decked? Could such programs operate once the user was unconcious? (IE: If I go down: Get me out of there)
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post Apr 8 2004, 12:05 AM
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Cybernetic legs and arms as I understand them have micronized servo motors to actually move-with what I would think would be minimal modification I don't see it as far fetched for a Snake Eyes capable rigger activating these servo motors and moving the limbs. Combine that with Zazen's idea and it starts to look pretty intresting I'd think.
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post Apr 8 2004, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime)
So a really expensive, Essence-unfriendly means of duplicating a Skillsoft Jukebox and BattleTac Link? Pass. :)

Well it's more like "How can I get more out of my existing Snake-eyes and Skillwires setup?" Presumably they didn't get them just for that limited scenario.
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post Apr 8 2004, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE (Lilt)
Well: a number of other questions could be based on this question. The Snakeyes package can also transmit more than just the Cyberlink can on its own, and can be used to make cheap porno flicks in your spare time. It has other advantages too, like the fact that you can record sensory data at will (doubling as an opticam or ear recorder). Also: the Snake-Eyes system is cheaper than a baseline simrig, and the Full-X snakeyes system is cheaper and takes less essence than some of the hardware it contains.

There are also a number of related questions to this topic: Can someone be run by a pilot-rating-like skillsoft? If someone had a remote connection, skillwires, and a pilot program: Could they have their meatbod function (either rigged or piloted by a program) while they decked? Could such programs operate once the user was unconcious? (IE: If I go down: Get me out of there)

Mitsuhamam is working on remote controlled humans according to one the books can't remember which, and not to long ago some reasearch lab used mice with electrodes attached to their brains to do a mock search and rescue. I am tryign to find both the book and the article.
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