 SOPA & PIPA, Read Me |
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 Jan 20 2012, 06:56 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737  |
"Honest Politician: A politician that stays bought." Which makes me wonder how long it'll take before the puppets of the big media companies try again. I'd be willing to bet on "before the summer recess".
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Jan 20 2012, 07:22 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
So what's the best source to find current status of the whole thing? Dutch newspapers haven't picked it up yet...
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Jan 20 2012, 07:22 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 |
QUOTE (Redjack @ Jan 18 2012, 11:14 AM)  On some points we will simply need to agree to disagree. It is much larger than Topps and Catalyst. It is any and every product/IP that might be linked to or referenced. I would refer you to the litigation of RightHaven, the BSA, RIAA and the MPAA under current, horribly written laws for the temperature of what would follow. The issue that I see it is that it gives any company the ability to go after anyone with material on their website that they don't own - even stuff that company does NOT own. As we saw in the UMG-vs-megaupload-on-youtube thing, UMG basically used their legality as a weapon to take things they didn't want the public to see, off. If SOPA/PIPA passes, there are going to be SO MANY lawsuits. Remember that fiasco with the RIAA being caught torrenting things themselves? Yeah. Pretty much anyone could hold the RIAA criminally liable for that. Whether or not they owned the material they were downloading. (we all know the RIAA/mediawatch whatever has their own people watch torrent traffic, snag IPs, and then sue the people they belong to. Or just steal shit anyway.) But this basically hands a loaded legal gun to anyone who doesn't like the RIAA. Or dumpshock. Or facebook. Or livejournal and their user icons. Or any other media site with user created content. |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:03 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Jan 20 2012, 02:56 PM) "Honest Politician: A politician that stays bought." I remember a story (Doubt it's true, but who knows), about someone trying to buy off Abraham Lincoln while he was still a lawyer, he kept going "No" as the guy kept increasing the price. Suddenly, Lincoln grabbed the guy and physically threw him out of the office. Someone else that worked in the office asked, "Did he annoy you that much?"Lincoln replied, "No. He was getting close to my price." THAT'S honesty. The ability to know your own price, and the ability to remove the influence to sell yourself before it happens. Me, I'd be a politico for all of ten minutes before the RCMP arrests me for bouncing people off of Parliament's stairs. Head first. Probably use his body to open doors, too. ... Just looked at the building again. Too damned big. I'll just try to get a ground floor office and throw him out a window. Unless I got a really good mad on. |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:06 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 20 2012, 09:03 PM) Me, I'd be a politico for all of ten minutes before the RCMP arrests me for bouncing people off of Parliament's stairs. Head first. Probably use his body to open doors, too. ... Just looked at the building again. Too damned big. I'll just try to get a ground floor office and throw him out a window. Unless I got a really good mad on. I'd use public money to constuct a catapult. |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:35 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2012, 05:06 PM) I'd use public money to constuct a catapult. Launching people from the top of the Peace Tower would not be a good image for Canada. Not in the least!
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Jan 20 2012, 09:37 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 20 2012, 09:35 PM) Launching people from the top of the Peace Tower would not be a good image for Canada. Not in the least! What about launching them to the top of the Tower? |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:43 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2012, 05:37 PM) What about launching them to the top of the Tower? Equally in bad taste. It's pointy on top and I'd impale their bodies. Also, I might hit one of the gargoyles or grotesques and damage them, those things are historical relics!
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Jan 20 2012, 09:50 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 20 2012, 09:43 PM) It's pointy on top and I'd impale their bodies. I'm waiting for the part where that's a bad thing. |
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Jan 20 2012, 10:49 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ Jan 20 2012, 05:50 PM) I'm waiting for the part where that's a bad thing. It's named the PEACE Tower, not the PIECE Tower. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Jan 20 2012, 11:17 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 20 2012, 02:49 PM) It's named the PEACE Tower, not the PIERCE Tower. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Fixed that for you. |
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Jan 20 2012, 11:27 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
That works too.
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Jan 21 2012, 01:12 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,705 Joined: 5-October 09 From: You are in a clearing Member No.: 17,722 |
I oft times think that things like SOPA and PIPA are just put out there to test what people will put up with.
The old "Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they have resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." |
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Jan 21 2012, 02:11 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
CNN Money reports PIPA and SOPA are postponed indefinitely. However, new legislation arises to take its place...
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Jan 21 2012, 02:16 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 20 2012, 10:11 PM) CNN Money reports PIPA and SOPA are postponed indefinitely. However, new legislation arises to take its place... They can still have my Internet when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
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Jan 21 2012, 02:27 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 20 2012, 10:16 PM) They can still have my Internet when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. Full disclosure: I'm drunk right now and posting via mobile. Aren't you from Canada? Do you even have any guns?? |
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Jan 21 2012, 02:32 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jan 20 2012, 10:27 PM) Full disclosure: I'm drunk right now and posting via mobile. Don't need guns if they start screwing with my Internet. I'm a bored nerd with a lot of time on my hands, and access to a lot of information.Aren't you from Canada? Do you even have any guns?? "I'd just have to LEARN." That sentence alone has made more of my teachers scared than anything else my class has ever thrown at them. |
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Jan 21 2012, 03:00 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Just to jump in on this briefly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ 25% of the internet's users are now culpable for copyright infringement and extradition to the USA, at $150,000 per infringed work. |
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Jan 21 2012, 03:10 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Anyone know where I can get cyanide tablets? They aren't taking me alive.
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Jan 21 2012, 05:05 AM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 20 2012, 10:00 PM) 25% of the internet's users are now culpable for copyright infringement and extradition to the USA, at $150,000 per infringed work. Wow, that could close the deficit! |
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Jan 21 2012, 08:30 AM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Canray being Canadian shouldn't you be in DC burning down the white house and capital building?
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Jan 21 2012, 08:34 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,325 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Jan 21 2012, 03:30 AM) Canray being Canadian shouldn't you be in DC burning down the white house and capital building? Only if they do it to Toronto, first. Which, in Canray's book, might receive his blessing! |
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Jan 21 2012, 01:30 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jan 21 2012, 04:10 AM) Anyone know where I can get cyanide tablets? They aren't taking me alive. Won´t help. They´ll just make the law to get your family instead. |
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Jan 21 2012, 01:39 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ Jan 21 2012, 02:30 PM) Won´t help. They´ll just make the law to get your family instead. Even unto the seventh generation. *dramatic music* |
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Jan 21 2012, 04:20 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Shortstraw @ Jan 21 2012, 04:30 AM) Canray being Canadian shouldn't you be in DC burning down the white house and capital building? I see it's been rebuilt, very nice. Fireproof materials this time. Oh well, ways around that.QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 21 2012, 04:34 AM) Only if they do it to Toronto, first. Which, in Canray's book, might receive his blessing! Hey, gotta have a good reason to do something, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE (Ryu @ Jan 21 2012, 09:30 AM) Won´t help. They´ll just make the law to get your family instead. Good luck, my immediate family is broke and my Father has a heart condition that necessitated him becoming a Cyborg. They're not going to get much out of them.QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jan 21 2012, 09:39 AM) Even unto the seventh generation. *dramatic music* Need a second generation first.
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