 SOPA & PIPA, Read Me |
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 Jan 22 2012, 04:49 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392  |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Jan 21 2012, 12:05 AM)  Wow, that could close the deficit! Iiiiiiiiif....it wasn't all going to the MPAA.... |
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Jan 22 2012, 05:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jan 22 2012, 11:49 AM) Iiiiiiiiif....it wasn't all going to the MPAA.... And from there to some numbered accounts in the Caymans... |
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Jan 22 2012, 05:30 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Jan 22 2012, 01:27 PM) And from there to some numbered accounts in the Caymans... Or Japan, or one of the new countries in Eastern Europe that has bad paperwork when it comes to giving up information, or...
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Jan 22 2012, 06:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Ucluelet - Tofino - Nanaimo Salish-Sahide Council Member No.: 17,309 |
I would like to share this and hope you watch the whole thing:
Ted Talk: Defend Our Freedom To Share (Or Why SOPA Is A Bad Idea) This fight has been going on for quite a while now and its not over by a long shot. |
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Jan 22 2012, 07:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 27-May 10 From: Helios Space Station, L3 solar LaGrange Point Member No.: 18,624 |
Don't forget about ACTA. As opposed to our friends SOPA and PIPA, this one is international, and there is much less awareness about it. Sneaky sneaky.
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Jan 22 2012, 07:45 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Jan 22 2012, 01:21 PM) I would like to share this and hope you watch the whole thing: Ted Talk: Defend Our Freedom To Share (Or Why SOPA Is A Bad Idea) This fight has been going on for quite a while now and its not over by a long shot. Good link! Well stated and clear. |
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Jan 22 2012, 08:43 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (AStarshipforAnts @ Jan 22 2012, 02:00 PM) Don't forget about ACTA. As opposed to our friends SOPA and PIPA, this one is international, and there is much less awareness about it. Sneaky sneaky. Yup, I'm aware of it. |
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Jan 23 2012, 04:15 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
ACTA appears to be even more invasive, potentially going as far as allowing customs agents to search your laptop on a whim without a warrant or probable cause. Holy hell.
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Jan 23 2012, 04:26 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Well, they can already do that in the United States, when you're crossing a border. Arguably, if you're within 100 miles of a border (including coastline).
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Jan 23 2012, 04:30 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,238 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Shit, I live within 100 miles of the US border!
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Jan 23 2012, 04:36 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
So does 2/3rds of the population of the country, apparently.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security_tech...ution-free-zone Link posted to show some of the articles and events the ACLU has tracked. Not posting any more on it, since it's drift from SOPA/PIPA. |
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Jan 23 2012, 05:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
Yeah, I noted that when reading the info on ACTA. It's sad how many rights were taken away after 9/11 and none of us even knew it.
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Jan 23 2012, 08:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 21-August 05 Member No.: 7,586 |
Welcome to this fight of epic proportions Ladies and Gentlemen.
In the left corner, the Policeman of the world, the self-proclaimed country of the free, the country of the honest and brave who fight other countries because they are plain fuckin EBIL. Ladies and Gentlemen, the UNITED STATES OF A. And in the right corner, the power from the east, the plain fuckin ebil country that's just to big to invade, the country everybody needs for cheap electronics and toxic toddler toys. Ladies and Gentlemen, RED CHINA. Ok you two, FIGHT. "Whoa, whoa stop it, I said no holding! What do ya mean with 'we are cuddling' ? The golden middle way? You mean compromise? WTF?" Yay, instead of bringing China to our standards, why not lower our standards little.... I am gonna throw up now.... |
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Jan 23 2012, 09:37 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
QUOTE (Jhaiisiin @ Jan 23 2012, 06:00 AM) Yeah, I noted that when reading the info on ACTA. It's sad how many rights were taken away after 9/11 and none of us even knew it. Many people knew about it, but couldn't do anything to change it, or didn't care. As long as they can keep on living their lives, most people won't do anything. And most of the time, when it starts directly impacting their lives, it's too late to change things. A few websites were censored by the French government, and not much was said about it. But as soon as MegaUpload disappeared and people couldn't get the latest episode of their TV shows, there were suddenly many people rising against Internet censorship... But the laws have already passed (and when the latest internet censorship law passed, most people only knew/cared about the fact that it was bundled with a more lenient law about traffic tickets). |
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Jan 23 2012, 02:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 770 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
ACTA may be challenged in the European Tribunal. Whoopee, saved by the bell.
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Jan 23 2012, 02:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
QUOTE (maeel @ Jan 23 2012, 03:03 AM) I am gonna throw up now.... Welcome to politcs & diplomacy 101. |
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Jan 23 2012, 03:13 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
SOPA and PIPA got shleved.
MPAA basically threatens the President and admits to bribing people: http://boingboing.net/2012/01/21/chris-dod...-hollywood.html They had better be VERY glad that Obama is President. Bush would have them declared a Terrorist Organisation for threatening the President. |
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Jan 23 2012, 03:39 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 23 2012, 10:13 AM) SOPA and PIPA got shleved. MPAA basically threatens the President and admits to bribing people: http://boingboing.net/2012/01/21/chris-dod...-hollywood.html Hilarious. As a side note, he's the same senator that promised not to become a lobbyist. And the very same law that prevents him from lobbying congress he voted for. |
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Jan 23 2012, 03:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
QUOTE (Adarael @ Jan 22 2012, 11:26 PM) Well, they can already do that in the United States, when you're crossing a border. Arguably, if you're within 100 miles of a border (including coastline). Certain airports (mainly the ones with the International designation) are considered borders by Customs officials too. Think about that for a few moments... |
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Jan 23 2012, 05:30 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I'm surprised unscrupulous electricity generators aren't smashing up the resting places of the US Founding Fathers. The torque they're generating while spinning in their graves could probably power a city for almost no expense, and they could charge whatever they wanted.
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Jan 23 2012, 07:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 29-April 10 Member No.: 18,522 |
I stand firmly opposed to SOPA and PIPA for two reasons, one superficial and one quite serious (and personal). I work evenings, have for most of my life. I don't get to watch prime time television, or even late night for that matter. Supporting a family of five on less than 1500 a month is more than difficult, so I also can't afford a cable/satellite service or Tivo/DVR type device, not when mortgage is due and we need to eat. I use various sites to watch what is broadcast for free. And I mean that, I only "aquire" shows from Fox, NBC, ABC, and CBS. I would no longer be able to watch those shows. [Of course, those companies fail to realize that the surprisingly large number of people like/similar to me will eventually get these tv series on dvd, when we have the money. If we don't watch anything, we won't buy anything.]
On the more serious note, my older brother is/was an aspiring musician. His work was rife with social and musical satire. (Prime examples: "Sprayin' Semen on Stuff" and "MFYMFNMFFY"). He also created a wonderful library of electronic music in a variety of subgenre. One day, he recieved a C & D order from EMI. They demanded he hand over all songs, materials, and moneys earned from one album he self released (and lost money on). The album's title was "Now That's What I Call Arajay". EMI's alleged grounds were the similarity between his album's title and the title of their "popular" series of pop compilation albums. As my brother had neither the money nor the legal knowledge to fight the case; and Fair Use law does not protect Satire in any form or fashion (your parody better not have any deep meanings bro!), he capitulated. His site is finally back up, free and clear of any "infringing" material, but it was still a horrible thing to do. None of the tracks were in any way infringing anything. Just the album title. (Okay, "Born to be Mild" but that really just a nod to another song, easily considered a parody.) My point in all that, seemingly advertising, rant: I have absolutely no desire to see that kind of power extend any further. Can you imagine what could happen to the literary communities as we (those who push the power of the written word to the current and future generations) fight for our right to publish satires online? Our entire works could be confiscated by the government, by virture of having a single "infringing" work on our site. (I understand this may be a bit of stretch, but I imagine it's not quite as much of a stretch for those reading this, considering where you are reading at) No thank you. |
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Jan 23 2012, 07:51 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever." - Nineteen-Eighty-Four, George Orwell
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Jan 23 2012, 08:04 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
In related news, a petition to investigate Chris Dodd for bribery.
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Jan 23 2012, 08:07 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
QUOTE (pbangarth @ Jan 22 2012, 11:30 PM) Shit, I live within 100 miles of the US border! Toront-owned! |
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Jan 23 2012, 08:15 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
But seriously, the solution is simple. Don't buy, watch, or listen to any movies or music ever again. It's mostly all crap nowadays anyway. Send the MPAA a note telling them they're cut off since they're trying to destroy freedom of expression. If this REALLY bothers you, put your money where your mouth is. Imagine how hilarious it would be if people simply stopped watching movies over this shit.
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