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maine75man
post Jan 27 2012, 04:35 AM
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I've always had a thing for characters with extra arms. Don't know why but I do. My question is are there any good way's to build a character around the Shiva Arms meta-quality in 4E.
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post Jan 29 2012, 06:39 PM
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I think I'll be making a four armed Naritaki physad pistol gunslinger. I tried to squeeze out a six armed character but it doesn't seem to work to pay for the surge characteristics and 25 points worth of ambidexterity. Even if it's legal by the rules thats a lot of points.

My Gm and I agree that specialization should usually add to the skill pool before splitting as per the faq. We're debating allowing the character to have a custom specialization in "Multi-Gun Mojo" which applies only when firing more then one gun at a time, and allowing that "special" specialization to apply post split.

Most other modifiers are going to be considered "dice pool modifiers" we will apply them after. None of us have the supplement with tracer ammo or red dot sights so we won't be worrying about them. My character should start with a Reflex Recorder and possibly Sync. She will also be running a rating 2 tacnet to make up for the loss of a smart gun bonus. (networked to her four droned smart guns via a skin link. Another potential rules stretch but both my Gm and I think it's a cool idea)

Starting out I'm going to be shooting for a pool of around 16 before splitting with post split modifiers around +3-6. Then if the character last long enough I'll be looking to add Adept Centering and item Attunement Meta-Magic.

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post Jan 29 2012, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (maine75man @ Jan 29 2012, 09:39 PM) *
Reflex Recorder

This is added before the split, it's an actual increase to the skill, same as adept improved ability.

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- maine75man   Shiva Arms: Practical or Just Fun?   Jan 27 2012, 04:35 AM
- - Udoshi   Yes there is. I have, as an experiment, made a si...   Jan 27 2012, 04:40 AM
- - Wejoto   QUOTE You basically have to load up on all the dic...   Jan 27 2012, 06:31 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Wejoto @ Jan 27 2012, 07:31 AM) Wa...   Jan 27 2012, 07:32 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Wejoto @ Jan 26 2012, 11:31 PM) Wa...   Jan 27 2012, 07:43 AM
- - CanRay   Fun and difficulty of six arms, in webcomic form. ...   Jan 27 2012, 09:30 AM
- - Irion   @Udoshi QUOTE You ONLY split Stat+Skill. Not quite...   Jan 27 2012, 09:42 AM
|- - NiL_FisK_Urd   QUOTE (Irion @ Jan 27 2012, 10:42 AM) You...   Jan 27 2012, 09:55 AM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (Irion @ Jan 27 2012, 01:42 AM) @Ud...   Jan 27 2012, 10:27 AM
- - Irion   For example: QUOTE ("Reflex recorder")T...   Jan 27 2012, 10:29 AM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   Well, you use an old book. SR4 Errata changed it t...   Jan 27 2012, 10:38 AM
- - Medicineman   Hello everybody QUOTE My question is are there an...   Jan 27 2012, 11:06 AM
- - UmaroVI   One of the interesting things about the six-armed ...   Jan 27 2012, 11:46 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 27 2012, 04:46 AM) U...   Jan 28 2012, 03:16 AM
|- - UmaroVI   Yeah, the importance of negating modifiers might m...   Jan 28 2012, 11:38 AM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jan 28 2012, 06:16 AM) Th...   Jan 28 2012, 04:37 PM
- - Mäx   Tacnet has a max rating of 4.   Jan 27 2012, 12:44 PM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 27 2012, 07:44 AM) Tacne...   Jan 27 2012, 04:57 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Where's the red dot sight from?   Jan 27 2012, 02:33 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jan 27 2012, 05:33 P...   Jan 27 2012, 03:18 PM
- - Irion   @Medicineman QUOTE ("FAQ")A dice pool is...   Jan 27 2012, 02:57 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE ("Corebook")These modifiers can re...   Jan 27 2012, 04:12 PM
- - 3278   QUOTE (maine75man @ Jan 27 2012, 04:35 AM...   Jan 27 2012, 09:46 PM
|- - Glyph   QUOTE (3278 @ Jan 27 2012, 01:46 PM) Are ...   Jan 28 2012, 03:49 AM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jan 27 2012, 08:49 PM) So ...   Jan 28 2012, 04:04 AM
|- - maine75man   QUOTE (Glyph @ Jan 27 2012, 11:49 PM) The...   Jan 28 2012, 02:34 PM
- - Yerameyahu   No, and no.   Jan 27 2012, 10:01 PM
- - CanRay   The advantage is pistol in one hand, magazine in s...   Jan 27 2012, 10:03 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Agreed. It's silly enough to use 2 guns at onc...   Jan 27 2012, 10:23 PM
|- - Medicineman   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 27 2012, 06:23 PM...   Jan 28 2012, 06:56 AM
- - Mäx   With 4 hands you can suppress 4 corridors at the s...   Jan 27 2012, 10:26 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jan 27 2012, 06:26 PM) With ...   Jan 27 2012, 10:44 PM
- - Stahlseele   Suppressive Fire does not care about blind fire, r...   Jan 28 2012, 01:52 AM
- - Yerameyahu   You can use them for that. You just don't get ...   Jan 28 2012, 04:13 AM
- - Dakka Dakka   You forgot FA mod and MRSI on the MGL. Now that i...   Jan 28 2012, 07:58 AM
- - Shortstraw   I was always a fan of heavy weapon shield and mele...   Jan 28 2012, 08:38 AM
- - UmaroVI   Actually, that reminds me of the other practical u...   Jan 28 2012, 11:40 AM
- - Medicineman   I wonder if Shiva Arms have to be symmetrical ? h...   Jan 28 2012, 12:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   That's a dangerous line of thinking. If we ass...   Jan 28 2012, 04:39 PM
- - UmaroVI   Hmm, here's an interesting one: how about a me...   Jan 28 2012, 05:15 PM
|- - Raiki   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 28 2012, 12:15 PM) H...   Jan 28 2012, 07:43 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 28 2012, 08:15 PM) H...   Jan 28 2012, 08:47 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Man, I hope no one notices the six-armed chrome Tr...   Jan 28 2012, 08:13 PM
|- - Raiki   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 28 2012, 03:13 PM...   Jan 28 2012, 08:24 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It certainly doesn't make sense for 6 independ...   Jan 28 2012, 08:56 PM
- - Irion   @Yerameyahu Yeah, thats the said thing about Shado...   Jan 28 2012, 09:07 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not the nifty concept that bothers me: mu...   Jan 28 2012, 09:21 PM
- - Irion   The sad thing is, that the line between munchkin a...   Jan 28 2012, 09:28 PM
- - UmaroVI   I think it actually was meant to be +1 per arm, bu...   Jan 28 2012, 09:29 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 28 2012, 04:29 PM) I...   Jan 29 2012, 04:55 PM
- - Stahlseele   Well, aside from Reach and better damage/AP . .   Jan 28 2012, 09:34 PM
|- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 28 2012, 04:34 PM...   Jan 28 2012, 10:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I know this goes back to the basic problem of ...   Jan 28 2012, 09:36 PM
- - Stahlseele   Shadowrun 4: Now you too can have your +6 Cyber-Ar...   Jan 28 2012, 09:49 PM
- - UmaroVI   Well, ultimately, yes, this goes back to the poorl...   Jan 28 2012, 10:03 PM
|- - Yerameyahu   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 28 2012, 04:03 PM) W...   Jan 28 2012, 10:08 PM
- - The Jopp   Hmm, use of X6 shiva arms (Nartaki Changeling with...   Jan 29 2012, 09:53 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   I have a Spider like character (Changeling Class I...   Jan 29 2012, 03:08 PM
- - Stahlseele   Make a ScorpionCharacter. Have him walk on the 6 a...   Jan 29 2012, 03:23 PM
- - UmaroVI   I don't want to get any further into a pointle...   Jan 29 2012, 05:51 PM
- - Yerameyahu   And, of course, shouldn't.   Jan 29 2012, 05:54 PM
- - maine75man   I think I'll be making a four armed Naritaki p...   Jan 29 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (maine75man @ Jan 29 2012, 09:39 PM...   Jan 29 2012, 06:52 PM
- - Yerameyahu   If you're paying cash and slots for drone guns...   Jan 29 2012, 06:47 PM
- - NiL_FisK_Urd   Tracer Rounds are in the core Rulebook   Jan 29 2012, 06:51 PM
|- - maine75man   QUOTE (NiL_FisK_Urd @ Jan 29 2012, 02:51 ...   Jan 29 2012, 10:47 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (maine75man @ Jan 30 2012, 01:47 AM...   Jan 30 2012, 12:25 AM
- - UmaroVI   Yeah, 5x Ambidexterity is not worth it - you'r...   Jan 29 2012, 07:05 PM
- - Yerameyahu   They're not even really terms; that would assu...   Jan 29 2012, 10:53 PM
|- - maine75man   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 29 2012, 06:53 PM...   Jan 30 2012, 12:30 AM
- - UmaroVI   SR4A changed the description of reflex recorders. ...   Jan 30 2012, 12:26 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Hehe, but we have mountains of evidence that (even...   Jan 30 2012, 01:29 AM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jan 30 2012, 02:29 AM...   Jan 30 2012, 02:36 PM
- - bobbaganoosh   It would have been nice for the developers to make...   Jan 30 2012, 02:35 AM
- - Yerameyahu   It's mostly that they use them sloppily (or fa...   Jan 30 2012, 03:42 AM
- - UmaroVI   Well, also, the consequence of multiple authors do...   Jan 30 2012, 11:10 AM
- - UmaroVI   MBW also stacks with RE. It is Synaptic Boosters t...   Jan 30 2012, 03:16 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   True, but that is not what I am talking about. Con...   Jan 30 2012, 03:29 PM
|- - Sponge   QUOTE (The Dumpshock poster named Dakka Dakka ...   Jan 30 2012, 04:43 PM
- - UmaroVI   You think "a bonus of +1 to Reaction" is...   Jan 30 2012, 03:50 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jan 30 2012, 04:50 PM) Y...   Jan 30 2012, 04:45 PM
|- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Jan 30 2012, 09:45 A...   Jan 31 2012, 11:30 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Heh. That way lies madness. There's a slim (bu...   Jan 30 2012, 04:15 PM


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