 Chummer Character Generator, Thread #2 |
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 Jun 27 2012, 03:53 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 23-September 11 From: Vegas Member No.: 38,733  |
Have a quick question regarding conceal scores for weapons. I tried searching through the threads and I don't THINK I saw anything pertinent to this. While making a character, weapons are showing extremely low conceal scores (-18 for a katana, for instance). If I save, quit, and reload the character, the scores are back to being how they should be.
Edit: Also, the SCK Model 100 should come with an internal smartlink. |
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Jun 27 2012, 04:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Lyon, FRANCE Member No.: 37,728 |
Strange, I just tried and the katana have +6 in conceal (same as my shotgun). Maybe some other gear is messing with that.
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Jun 27 2012, 06:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 23-September 11 From: Vegas Member No.: 38,733 |
Think I figured out what's causing it (well, some of it maybe). Seems like if you have clothing that grants extra conceal (Mortimer longcoat, I'm looking at you) it throws the values off until you save and reopen the character.
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Jun 28 2012, 04:54 AM
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#779
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 11-June 10 From: Thunder Bay, ON, Canada Member No.: 18,696 |
All of the items in the Odds and Ends Gear Category from Arsenal are listed as being from page 61, should be page 62.
I also have a character that has a colt M22A3 assault rifle and when it says it's fully loaded but the ammo drop down says external source instead of the type of ammo loaded. If I reload it displays correctly but as soon as I save and reload the character the drop down is back to saying external source. The grenade launcher part of the weapon is properly displaying the grenades loaded. It's just the main weapons that doesn't appear to be working correctly. |
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Jun 28 2012, 07:34 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Nice now having the option to reduce attributes (have had internet connection issues last week), but could there be an option to not reduce the racial maximum at the same time? It's my understanding that when an attribute is reduced by whatever, the maximum doesn't drop along with it.
Also, could Magic and Resonance be available for reduction for awakened/emerged characters as well? A magician with a talisman who suffers a crisis of faith can see their Magic reduced, for one example. |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:03 PM
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#781
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (DocReid @ Jun 19 2012, 05:15 PM)  Thanks for the quick response Nebular. But what about the Zoe Heritage Line? Is that listed as a Mod as well because I still haven't seen that piece of clothing. The Heritage Line wasn't included because the Ballistic and Impact are completely variable. Creating a separate entry for each of the 20 different possible combinations (2-6 B/1 - 4 I) doesn't seem very practical to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:07 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 19 2012, 05:17 PM) I found freeze foam ammunition in the current update, but when I tried to purchase some and hook it up to the drone's cannons, I got an error anyway. Even if I listed it as 'vehicle weapon', it didn't work. I'm also wondering why the dice pool for it is only 2 - but I don't know if that's an error or not for it. I can't seem to reproduce the error with the Freeze Foam. Just to be certain, it's the Ammo: Freeze Foam item you're trying to load in there, correct? If you're still getting the error, could you email me the save file so I can take a look at it? (nebular@shaw.ca) |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (forgarn @ Jun 21 2012, 01:04 PM) I thought in previous versions that when you loaded a firearm with ammo, it auto added the modifiers to the weapon's stats. However, today I loaded a Colt Cobra TZ-110 (5P dmg, 0 AP) with Ex-Ex ammo (should have made the stats 6P dmg and -1 AP) and nothing in the Colt's stats changed. Is this a change to the program is am I missing somthing? I just tried this and it seems to be working correctly. If this is still occurring with your character, could you email me the save file so I can take a look and see what's up? (nebular@shaw.ca) |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:17 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (McDougle @ Jun 22 2012, 02:44 AM) Is there a way to implement "HomeGround"´s +2 SkillBonus in the improvements? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This is a conditional bonus (need to be on your home ground), so this isn't factored into a Skill. This is one of the reasons the Improvements tab exists in Career mode. You can setup your conditional Improvements on the tab, then turn them on/off as needed to have them apply their bonuses to things. |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:46 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
Build 396
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Jun 30 2012, 09:46 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (voydangel @ Jun 22 2012, 12:12 AM) When printing character sheets out, Matrix Program groups (Such as the FTL Power user suite) don't print out what is included, it simply prints the name of the package. It would be nice if it said what was in the package and the ratings when printed. Even better would be to just have it print the contents and ratings and leave off the fact that its in a suite package since that's irrelevant during game/after purchase. Also, I'm curious if you've looked into some of the possible options I asked about (linked below). Just kinda curious for an answer, even if it's no. =) One of my earlier posts in this thread. Other earlier suggestion/request post I haven't really looked into the other items you mentioned in your other posts. I unfortunately haven't had much time to work on this lately. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) They're on my list of things to do though. |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:47 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (McDougle @ Jun 21 2012, 05:15 PM) Some Drones from "TOD" seem to be missing Upgrades(I didn´t check all of them): -Cyberspace Desings Wolfhound: Adaptability 2 Autosoft -MCT Hachiman: Spotlight, Targetsoft1 The Vehicles file has been updated to correct this. There is no actual item called Spotlight anywhere in Gear or Vehicle Mods, so this has been left off. Targetsoft should also be the Targeting Autosoft (really wish they'd check their books for consistency!). |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:47 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (taeksosin @ Jun 26 2012, 09:53 PM) Have a quick question regarding conceal scores for weapons. I tried searching through the threads and I don't THINK I saw anything pertinent to this. While making a character, weapons are showing extremely low conceal scores (-18 for a katana, for instance). If I save, quit, and reload the character, the scores are back to being how they should be. Edit: Also, the SCK Model 100 should come with an internal smartlink. I think part of the issue for concealment has been cleaned up in today's update. It certainly looks like it at least. There was a hideous issue where selecting a piece of Armor in the Select Armor window would immediately create bonuses instead of waiting until it has actually be purchased and added to the character. This was probably what was happening for this quirky issue as well. The Weapons data file has been updated to include the missing item. |
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Jun 30 2012, 09:48 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Jun 27 2012, 10:54 PM) All of the items in the Odds and Ends Gear Category from Arsenal are listed as being from page 61, should be page 62. I also have a character that has a colt M22A3 assault rifle and when it says it's fully loaded but the ammo drop down says external source instead of the type of ammo loaded. If I reload it displays correctly but as soon as I save and reload the character the drop down is back to saying external source. The grenade launcher part of the weapon is properly displaying the grenades loaded. It's just the main weapons that doesn't appear to be working correctly. Gear has been updated to correct this. I can't seem to reproduce this Weapon issue either (apparently I can't reproduce most bugs now it seems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) ). This should only happen if the Ammo has gone missing from the character entirely... could you email me your save file so I can see what's up? (nebular@shaw.ca) |
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Jun 30 2012, 10:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 11-June 10 From: Thunder Bay, ON, Canada Member No.: 18,696 |
QUOTE (Nebular @ Jun 30 2012, 04:48 PM) Gear has been updated to correct this. I can't seem to reproduce this Weapon issue either (apparently I can't reproduce most bugs now it seems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) ). This should only happen if the Ammo has gone missing from the character entirely... could you email me your save file so I can see what's up? (nebular@shaw.ca) It seems that after having saved the character and reloaded it since the ammo problem happened it's no longer happening. |
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Jul 2 2012, 03:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 24-February 09 Member No.: 16,910 |
When I buy Sustaining Foci (Rating 3 in my case) and choose quantity 2, the program makes an error in calculating the bonding costs. It tells me I only spent 3 karma to bind my foci, but two Sustaining Foci with Rating 3 should cost 12 Karma overall, if I am not mistaken.
Maybe this is a known bug or maybe I am making a mistake, but I wanted to point that out, because I love that program. |
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Jul 2 2012, 10:11 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
I've not dealt with foci in quantities like that (I like using notes to describe the appearance of the focus, and tracking active vs inactive), and in doing a quick test it looks like Chummer's not programmed to deal with foci in stacks (as opposed to stacked foci).
Which, also, stacked foci are deducting karma based on the first focus, not the sum of all foci. |
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Jul 3 2012, 12:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Ottawa, Canada Member No.: 15,847 |
Could you shift 'Shadow Spirit' into its own category, and split it by Shadow Spirit type? As it stands, you can make a 'generic' Shadow Spirit, and then have to pay for the powers related to the individual types. Much appreciated. (This is for making a critter as summoned / adversary).
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Jul 4 2012, 02:22 AM
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Target Group: New Member Probation Posts: 8 Joined: 9-March 10 Member No.: 18,265 |
Is there anyway to collapse all vehicles plugins on the vehicle tab. I have a player that has decided to buy/steal/hack an army of drones and searching through the list takes forever.
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Jul 6 2012, 11:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,086 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
CODE <attribute> <name>MAG</name> <base>1</base> <total>1</total> <min>0</min> <max>1</max> <aug>1</aug> <bp>65</bp> </attribute> 65 BP for Rating 0? That's some expensive attribute (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (Problem also occurs with RES 0) Plus another thing, though I'm not sure if it's a bug or feature: For a character in Career Mode, the starting money can't be changed via the "Edit Expense" button. Probably does not come up often, but I just had a situation where I wanted to correct the starting cash...and it would probably be useful for groups with houserules on starting money. EDIT: Two more issues 1.) When the filter field for spell names contains a string which yields results, then one letter is added which results in an unknown name, and then the last letter is deleted, an exception occurs For example Click "Add Spell" and type in "feri", then hit backspace. Or "controll" and delete the last l. [ Spoiler ] 2.) The <cost> tags in the printout now contain the calculated costs instead of the formula, which is nice. However, the value now also includes all upgrades, mods, and is adjusted for quantity. If that was a conscious design decision, I'd nevertheless ask you to reconsider it. If the XSLT shall calculate the total cost from the individual costs, that is easy to do with additions and multiplications. Calculating the base cost with divisions and subtractions would require additional checks for negative numbers, decimal places, yadda dadda... |
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Jul 8 2012, 09:45 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
- I added Firing Selection Change (FA) to an Ares HVBR, but in Career Mode the "FIRE!" drop-down menu only allows me to select single shot and short burst. The long burst and full-auto are greyed out.
Also, despite being an HV weapon the full auto selection in that menu indicates 10 rounds would be expended, instead of the 12 it should show. - Enhanced Protein Exchange: Adapsin does not seem to be reducing the Essence costs of implants added after it is applied. -k |
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Jul 10 2012, 07:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 10-July 12 Member No.: 53,016 |
Ok, so I downloaded Chummer and started using it to create characters for a couple of games that I am going to be involved in, and I've noticed a couple things that should be addressed. I'm very nit-picky, so if these have already been brought up or if I'm on crack, please just say so.
1. I was adding Cyberware, and I added a Commlink. To the Commlink I was able to add an operating system, but I wasn't able to add anything else to it (Response, Firewall, Signal, System, other accessories, etc.). However, when I purchased one in Street Gear, I was able to add any accessory to it that I wanted. Now, I get that when it's implanted you can't necessarily add a lot to it, but why not software or other stuff? Shouldn't you be allowed to update the Commlink instead of having to settle for the base one that's implanted OR purchase a standalone? 2. Knowledge skills drive me crazy, and I'm going crazier by the moment. I have a character who has 24 knowledge skill points, but when I try to give him the ratings I want, I end up burning through the points quickly. Yet if I do the math, I find that I am still way under, even when it shows I have zero points remaining. An example of what I am trying to do, by using the following skillset and ratings: Japanese, Read/Write N Japanese, Speak N English, Read/Write 1 English, Speak 1 Chemistry, Organic 3 Chemistry, Pharmaceuticals 3 Firearms, Ammunition 3 Firearms, Modification 3 Engineering, Chemical 2 You are going to see 2 problems here, and I'll get to the second one in a few moments. Anyhow, this is 18 skill points, right? Wrong. In Chummer, this is well over 24 skill points, and I cannot figure out why. In order to build the character "properly", I have to drop all of the ratings by 1 point, which even shows that I have 2 native languages, in order for the knowledge points to be spent appropriately. Why? 3. As you can see in the above example, I've only spent 18 skill points when I have 24. Why is this? Because the application continuously drops knowledge skills. It seems that after I save a character, something happens where the last few knowledge skills are getting wiped out and are not showing up. This is a real pain because the character that this set came from has already been moved to Career mode, which means if I fudge the karma to get the rest of his missing skills, his career Karma is messed up. 4. In addition to the knowledge skill stuff already presented above, there is yet another issue with this. As shown above, I have Read/Write and Speak for both languages, yet the knowledge skill section shows Read/Write for both. That is, I have 2 Read/Write for English and 2 Read/Write for Japanese. The same holds true for Chemistry - both are showing Organic when one should be Pharmaceutical. I was able to open the XML file and alter the values in there, but they are not showing up in Chummer. 5. I purchased an Ares Antioch-2 grenade launcher, and 12 grenades. When I go to load the grenade launcher, the system gives me the message that I have not purchased any grenade launcher ammo. I appreciate you looking into this. |
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Jul 10 2012, 08:35 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
1: I've never elaborated an implanted commlink in the cyberware section. Instead I'll create a new location in the Gear section with a name to indicate that it's the implanted commlink. My take on this is that the implanted commlink in cyberware is like having a spot in your body where any commlink can be plugged in.
2 - 4: Are you adding what you've listed after the comma in the drop down box after the rating? If so, that's for specializations and those consume a knowledge point in the BP system (oddly, in karma there's no cost if you have the free knowledge points enabled) and you're certainly going over 24 knowledge points. Also, unless there's a house rule in effect, speaking and reading/writing a language are specializations of of that skill; you do not need English (Speaking) and English (Read/Write) in order to read/write/speak English, and you're generally considered to automatically pass language checks for your Native language (specializations here are pointless). Same goes for the pharmaceuticals & organic in chemistry, the chemical in engineering, and the ammunition & modification in firearms. You're burning way more points than you need to, because the knowledge skill Chemistry 3 means your skill is at a rating of 3 for anything involving chemistry, including organic and pharmaceutical. As far as I understand, your listing of knowledge skills is actually illegal as you've got multiple specializations for the same skill (an explicit no no). Your knowledge skills, again assuming you're listing specializations up there, should look something more like this (only 9 knowledge points): Japanese (N) English (1) Chemistry (3) Firearms (3) Engineering (2) Now if you're trying to have the higher dice pools for some skills, like what you listed, you could do something like this (16 knowledge points): Japanese N English 3 Chemistry 5 Firearms 5 Engineering (Chemical) 2 (+2) Do note that those two skills at 5 count against your "2 skills at 5 or 1 skill at 6" limit at character creation. 5: Tested this with about half a dozen different ammo types, just in case there was some mix up. At the moment it seems that grenades and generic ammo selected for grenade launchers is not being recognized as appropriate ammo for any grenade launcher. |
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Jul 10 2012, 08:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 10-July 12 Member No.: 53,016 |
Thank you for the response, Spellbinder. I was not aware that I was actually specializing when doing the knowledge skills, so you would be correct regarding the skills count. However, our GM allowed the character as is, so I'm just going to run with how he is set up (these are knowledge skills and not active skills we are talking about, so I'm not really sure how often they are going to come into play anyhow).
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Jul 10 2012, 10:24 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-July 11 From: NE Pennsylvania Member No.: 34,232 |
QUOTE (Scarecrow @ Jul 10 2012, 02:20 PM) 1. I was adding Cyberware, and I added a Commlink. To the Commlink I was able to add an operating system, but I wasn't able to add anything else to it (Response, Firewall, Signal, System, other accessories, etc.). However, when I purchased one in Street Gear, I was able to add any accessory to it that I wanted. Now, I get that when it's implanted you can't necessarily add a lot to it, but why not software or other stuff? Shouldn't you be allowed to update the Commlink instead of having to settle for the base one that's implanted OR purchase a standalone? The cyberware commlink in Chummer is an additional cost on top of a normal commlink found in the street gear section. In essence, you are paying a premium to have a normal commlink implanted. SR4A p.339 First item in the equipment table. QUOTE I appreciate you looking into this. |
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