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Quick question..? |
Feb 25 2012, 09:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
Do SR4 nodes matrix rules still have virtual machine equivelents please?
Being lazy and avoiding rules clutter as still on SR3 game. Iam and hope fully will continue to avoid reading the SR4 matix rules en mass to avoid the brain attic having critical fail in game. I have a background game idea from my campaign I was thinking of posting up similar to my sig tag as a resource. Just need to know if I should keep it SR3 or bother converting to SR4. Thanks in advance. |
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Feb 26 2012, 07:00 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
I would be better equipped to answer your question if I knew what a "virtual machine" was exactly. I've played almost exclusively 4th Ed, with very little 3rd experience (a MUSHclient).
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Feb 26 2012, 09:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 4-December 09 Member No.: 17,940 |
If it's teh same as IRL a virutal machine is using a computer to emulate another - an exampel would be having a Linux-installed PC running a virtual Windows-installed PC.
It let you run bizarre OS or software without havign to jump though the hoops of buying the weird harwxare they're supposed to run onto. It also hlps making sure the real maching doesn't catch a virus or other nasty things - whatver troubles will be sodftware-only and confined toteh virtual machine. The cost is that running the emulation is eating a good chunk of teh real machine's processing power. |
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Feb 26 2012, 09:45 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Do SR4 nodes matrix rules still have virtual machine equivelents please? I have no idea what you mean. There pretty much are no real-world equivalents to anything in the SR4 computer rules, and trying to think about SR computers as if they were R-W computers just leads to madness. |
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Feb 26 2012, 06:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
If I'm understanding at best, no there's nothing for "Virtual Machine" equivalents in Shadowrun at all. At the base any operating system will pretty much run anything, and at the GM's option data files may be specific to one brand of OS (like Sony's or Renraku's) but otherwise can be decoded.
And as kzt said, trying to think of SR4 computers as the real world counterparts is opening the door to insanity. Do remember that the tech industry of Shadowrun has reinvented itself twice within a span of 50 years. |
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Feb 26 2012, 10:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 15-December 09 Member No.: 17,968 |
There is a mention in the Dissonance section of certain dissonants torturing other matrix users in their 'dissonant virtual machines'. Sadly, that's literally all it says.
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Feb 27 2012, 07:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 494 Joined: 9-April 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 15,868 |
In SR3, Virtual Machines were a host pretending to be an easier host with faked files and such dangling in it. Without conducting a specific test, the decker was unable to tell that it was a fake and the files were junk or fakes. After the decker realized it was a fake, they could break through that "virtual machine" into the real host (or the next layer of the onion.)
As far as I know, there is no SR4 version of this, but I don't know SR4 as well as SR3. |
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Feb 27 2012, 03:03 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
In SR3, Virtual Machines were a host pretending to be an easier host with faked files and such dangling in it. Without conducting a specific test, the decker was unable to tell that it was a fake and the files were junk or fakes. After the decker realized it was a fake, they could break through that "virtual machine" into the real host (or the next layer of the onion.) As far as I know, there is no SR4 version of this, but I don't know SR4 as well as SR3. Honeypots are fake files in SR4. See Unwired. Nothing stopping you from creating a "Fake System" for a Node, however. It is just another system as far as node architecture is concerned. |
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Feb 28 2012, 08:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 993 Joined: 5-December 05 From: Crying in the wilderness Member No.: 8,047 |
Could be tricky to dupicate the hardware and software architechture of the Golden Hyper Temple (trust me the name is meant to suck) then in SR4 with out knowing both sets of rules equally.
I guess I could do it with a linear node pattern with a three stacked node hardward and fluff the Virtual Machine explaination. The crunch is not vital I suppose, but I like my creations aldente. Any takers on those who know both systems well enough to advise? |
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