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post Mar 15 2012, 09:08 PM
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I know that the PC character for Dragons was April Fools but... has anyone made a character using those rules?
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post Mar 15 2012, 09:12 PM
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Didn't you look at my post on the other forums? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 15 2012, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 15 2012, 05:12 PM) *
Didn't you look at my post on the other forums? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


And mine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 17 2012, 10:15 PM
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Hopefully other people answer:)
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post Mar 17 2012, 10:17 PM
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I've wanted to, but I just make a nosferatu instead and end up being more powerful.
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:49 AM
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The problem with Dragons is that with 400 BPs, you're left with at most 100 for skills, stat-increases, spells, contacts, and gear...

I haven't tried Karma Gen though - maybe they fare better there?
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post Mar 18 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 18 2012, 06:49 AM) *
The problem with Dragons is that with 400 BPs, you're left with at most 100 for skills, stat-increases, spells, contacts, and gear...

I haven't tried Karma Gen though - maybe they fare better there?


And you dont get to go traipsing around in your natural form whenever you please. Shadowruns usually require that you go inside somewhere, so in the end you only end up getting to use the full-might of your dragon form in the same places that a rigger could fully employ his tricked out combat-car, and then the tricked out combat car rocks more socks than you ever will.
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post Mar 18 2012, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Mar 18 2012, 01:58 PM) *
And you dont get to go traipsing around in your natural form whenever you please. Shadowruns usually require that you go inside somewhere, so in the end you only end up getting to use the full-might of your dragon form in the same places that a rigger could fully employ his tricked out combat-car, and then the tricked out combat car rocks more socks than you ever will.


Very true, but being a dragon has a whole slew of advantages - like dropping your masking when negotiating with an astrally active Mr. J; sheer intimidation factor etc. Of course, it comes with at least the same amount of problems... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 18 2012, 04:03 PM
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The best part IMO would be the massive amounts of reagents you get every time you shed your scales. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)
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post Mar 18 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 18 2012, 11:03 AM) *
The best part IMO would be the massive amounts of reagents you get every time you shed your scales. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)


but each scale shed is a material link to you, yes?
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post Mar 18 2012, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Mar 18 2012, 12:49 PM) *
but each scale shed is a material link to you, yes?


There are things you can do to break that link but leave the reagent intact.
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post Mar 18 2012, 07:23 PM
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Even without doing anything fancy you're still left with making a judgement call on how long such links last too. Once something decomposes/dries out or has been chemically preserved it ceases being applicable as a material link, although the time it takes for that to happen is anyone's guess, particularly considering that they included hair as a tissue sample, and keratin is so stable that the poultry industry is often looking for cheaper ways to dispose of all those pesky feathers. So, at my table the way I handle links is that you need reasonably fresh blood for it to be material link. A fleshy bit is fine but toe nails, teeth or hair are not, although such objects make such top-notch sympathetic links that you can perform ritual magic through them without any penalty as opposed to having the -2 dice penalty or more with other objects. So it's still a dangerous practice to leave your toe nails lying around, but at least people'd have to realize whose nails they are AND get them to a magician with the right metamagic.
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post Mar 20 2012, 02:21 AM
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Does anyone still have a copy of that post i cant seem to find it i would like to see it
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post Mar 20 2012, 02:47 AM
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Not to mention, who has the stones to risk trying a ritual link on a Dragon? Seriously? It's a better idea to get into melee with a ghoul.
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post Mar 20 2012, 04:50 AM
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TBH, if I was going to start trying to take out dragons I'd rather play the long game and become adept with Symbolic links and enchanting. I mean, yeah, it'll be more expensive, and you'll lose out on some dice, so it's not without its drawbacks, but it's a helluva lot easier to keep a secret. I really can't think of a quicker way to get your silly ass killed then asking questions like "Yes, yes, but are they Tjuranga's clippings?"
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post Mar 20 2012, 10:36 AM
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Well, this was talking about it from the other side: being the dragon, and having access to the reagents of your own body, with the drawback of them being ritual links to you. Benefit is, many might not want to attempt ritual magic against you if they know you are a dragon?
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post Mar 20 2012, 11:11 PM
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http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/download/p...ers_preview.pdf

Yes i found the rules for those who would like to see them
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post Mar 20 2012, 11:28 PM
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That...

That doesn't actually seem all that bad. With BP costs like that, they're not going to be too unholy terrors.


Hrm... I wonder what an all-dragon game would be like...
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post Mar 20 2012, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Mar 21 2012, 12:28 AM) *
Hrm... I wonder what an all-dragon game would be like...


I have asked myself that very same question...
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post Mar 21 2012, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 20 2012, 06:59 PM) *
I have asked myself that very same question...


The amount of ritual magic they could pull off would be effing disgusting because they dont have a magical tradition.
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post Mar 21 2012, 01:16 AM
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it would end in a bunch of PCs thinking they're the baddest mo'fo's in the city and getting gutter stomped by a Megacorp. Or Ghostwalker.
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post Mar 21 2012, 01:51 AM
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One place where dragons tend to draw the line regarding
technology is personal augmentation. All dragons possess the innate equivalent of Sensitive System Negative Quality and invasive
implants tend to have an adverse effect on draconic physiology
and, more importantly, psychology. Every time a dragon loses
Essence to implantation he must make a Willpower + Magic Test
with a Threshold of 3. If he fails he automatically gains a 10 point
Mental Negative Quality


Reading this gives me the idea of a deeply crazed dragon cyberzombie.
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post Mar 21 2012, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE (Starmage21 @ Mar 20 2012, 06:16 PM) *
The amount of ritual magic they could pull off would be effing disgusting because they dont have a magical tradition.


Of course they do, it is a Dragon Tradition...
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post Mar 21 2012, 02:12 AM
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I'm thinking the Sixth World needs a dragon with a datajack again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 21 2012, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Mar 20 2012, 09:12 PM) *
I'm thinking the Sixth World needs a dragon with a datajack again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


blech, Dragon-Trodes™ work just fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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