Mar 16 2012, 05:15 AM
Post
#1
|
|
|
Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 9-September 09 Member No.: 17,621 |
I did a search for this and havent really seen an answer for it.
Can an adept use critical strike with the hardliner gloves in arsenal? My view is that they are both part of unarmed combat so yes but i cna see the argument either way. There wont be any houseruling for this so i would like to stick as close to the books as possible. And before you accuse me of so i am a slight powergamer but i play w/ other powergamers and i would love for these to stack so i can get those gloves as weapon foci. |
|
|
|
![]() |
Mar 16 2012, 05:41 AM
Post
#2
|
|
|
Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 9-September 09 Member No.: 17,621 |
Yeah i was afraid of that basiclly you cant focus ur chi that way/ the gloves would break hitting that hard or something like that. ill just build a sword adept then itll take less karma for me to get him where i want him then
|
|
|
|
Mar 16 2012, 05:42 AM
Post
#3
|
|
|
Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 2-April 07 From: Dallas/Fort Worth Megaplex Member No.: 11,361 |
Yeah i was afraid of that basiclly you cant focus ur chi that way/ the gloves would break hitting that hard or something like that. ill just build a sword adept then itll take less karma for me to get him where i want him then Don't forget to possess your sword for Extra damage and Armor Pen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) -------------------- "curse you text, your inability to convey emotion has foiled my jokes for the last time......."
|
|
|
|
Mar 16 2012, 05:47 AM
Post
#4
|
|
|
Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 9-September 09 Member No.: 17,621 |
Don't forget to possess your sword for Extra damage and Armor Pen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) Possess?? |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2012, 05:48 AM
Post
#5
|
|
|
Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 2-April 07 From: Dallas/Fort Worth Megaplex Member No.: 11,361 |
Possess?? Throw a Possession Spirit or a Inhabiation Spirit into the item. It increases all of the items attributes/stats by its force as well as making practically indestructible and giving you access to whatever powers the spirit has like Movment or Magical Guard. -------------------- "curse you text, your inability to convey emotion has foiled my jokes for the last time......."
|
|
|
|
Mar 16 2012, 05:53 AM
Post
#6
|
|
|
Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: 9-September 09 Member No.: 17,621 |
Throw a Possession Spirit or a Inhabiation Spirit into the item. It increases all of the items attributes/stats by its force as well as making practically indestructible and giving you access to whatever powers the spirit has like Movment or Magical Guard. Ohh yeah that makes sense. Well i was gonna go straight adept and was eventually gonna sacrifice a magic point for increased reflexes bioware at least r2 and if i can get it beta ware r3 that way i only lose one point of essence and get 3 to 5 magic poi9nts of the exact same thing just a base r2 increased reflexes is cheaper than the 1.5pp adept version EDIT - Oh and i think the group as a whole doesnt like possesion type spirits. there is a slight limit on how far we will go lol |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2012, 05:56 AM
Post
#7
|
|
|
Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 2-April 07 From: Dallas/Fort Worth Megaplex Member No.: 11,361 |
Ohh yeah that makes sense. Well i was gonna go straight adept and was eventually gonna sacrifice a magic point for increased reflexes bioware at least r2 and if i can get it beta ware r3 that way i only lose one point of essence and get 3 to 5 magic poi9nts of the exact same thing just a base r2 increased reflexes is cheaper than the 1.5pp adept version Don't ever spend essence on stuff like that, just use Magic. Increase Reflexes is the way to go, since you can also cast it on other people, thus being a force multiplier. -------------------- "curse you text, your inability to convey emotion has foiled my jokes for the last time......."
|
|
|
|
Boomer1985 Unarmed adept Mar 16 2012, 05:15 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (Boomer1985 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:15 AM... Mar 16 2012, 05:29 AM
BishopMcQ Because they are listed as items, the consensus mo... Mar 16 2012, 05:32 AM
The Jake QUOTE (Ragewind @ Mar 16 2012, 06:48 AM) ... Mar 16 2012, 06:20 AM
Boomer1985 The adept version isnt castable it only affects u ... Mar 16 2012, 06:01 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Ragewind @ Mar 16 2012, 01:48 PM) ... Mar 16 2012, 06:13 AM
Yerameyahu Indeed, phlapjack.
QUOTE If the vessel is inanim... Mar 16 2012, 06:26 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 01:26 AM... Mar 16 2012, 06:38 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Ragewind @ Mar 16 2012, 12:38 AM) ... Mar 16 2012, 03:14 PM
phlapjack77 A good thread about possession and items (some goo... Mar 16 2012, 06:46 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 16 2012, 01:46 A... Mar 16 2012, 06:48 AM
Yerameyahu It's not obvious to everyone. I've seen m... Mar 16 2012, 06:48 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 01:48 AM... Mar 16 2012, 06:50 AM
Makki for an unarmed adept I recommend the Kick-Attack M... Mar 16 2012, 07:01 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (Makki @ Mar 16 2012, 02:01 AM) for... Mar 16 2012, 07:02 AM
Yerameyahu You can also just ask the GM to allow your Hardlin... Mar 16 2012, 07:08 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 02:08 AM... Mar 16 2012, 07:11 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Ragewind @ Mar 16 2012, 03:11 PM) ... Mar 16 2012, 07:16 AM
Ragewind QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 16 2012, 02:16 A... Mar 16 2012, 07:19 AM
Yerameyahu No, it's a comment that comes at the end of a ... Mar 16 2012, 07:14 AM
Yerameyahu Personally, I don't mind. Language is my favor... Mar 16 2012, 07:19 AM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 03:19 PM... Mar 16 2012, 07:26 AM
UmaroVI The real problem with that "edge on a f1 sust... Mar 16 2012, 10:35 AM
Yerameyahu It's got more than enough drawbacks… if the GM... Mar 16 2012, 03:08 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 09:08 AM... Mar 16 2012, 03:15 PM
Irion QUOTE Edge Bypassing force is actually the rule, n... Mar 16 2012, 05:06 PM
JonathanC So, wait....if Hardliner gloves are generally unde... Mar 16 2012, 05:22 PM
Mickle5125 I've ruled that you can get the weapon focus e... Mar 16 2012, 05:24 PM
phlapjack77 QUOTE (Mickle5125 @ Mar 17 2012, 01:24 AM... Mar 16 2012, 06:31 PM
Yerameyahu Yes, JonathanC, except for the GM houseruling thin... Mar 16 2012, 05:44 PM
almost normal You really don't need the weapon focus. Use el... Mar 16 2012, 06:26 PM
Yerameyahu Sure, or light, sound, whatever. (Bleh, element cr... Mar 16 2012, 06:31 PM
JonathanC QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 11:31 AM... Mar 16 2012, 06:32 PM
Yerameyahu Yeah, I feel like it's a fair-ish tradeoff: yo... Mar 16 2012, 06:36 PM
almost normal QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 01:36 PM... Mar 16 2012, 06:41 PM
Angelone QUOTE (almost normal @ Mar 16 2012, 01:41... Mar 16 2012, 07:52 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Ragewind @ Mar 16 2012, 05:48 AM) ... Mar 16 2012, 06:59 PM
Neraph QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:46 A... Mar 18 2012, 04:20 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Neraph @ Mar 18 2012, 04:20 PM) Th... Mar 18 2012, 05:43 PM
KarmaInferno QUOTE (Kolinho @ Mar 18 2012, 01:43 PM) S... Mar 21 2012, 03:15 PM
Yerameyahu Hehe, Kolinho, you just repeated everything said h... Mar 16 2012, 07:12 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 16 2012, 07:12 PM... Mar 17 2012, 01:16 AM
snowRaven QUOTE (JonathanC @ Mar 16 2012, 06:22 PM)... Mar 17 2012, 11:30 AM
Kolinho QUOTE (snowRaven @ Mar 17 2012, 11:30 AM)... Mar 17 2012, 12:11 PM
Irion @Kolinho
QUOTE Perhaps the penis comment was a bit... Mar 17 2012, 12:23 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 17 2012, 12:23 PM) @Ko... Mar 17 2012, 12:36 PM
Shortstraw You could still be a rules lawyer that needs contr... Mar 17 2012, 12:57 PM
Irion You know what really scares me?
I bet you could ho... Mar 17 2012, 01:03 PM
snowRaven QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 17 2012, 02:03 PM) You... Mar 17 2012, 02:12 PM
Shortstraw It's like art history! Mar 17 2012, 01:13 PM
Yerameyahu That's kind of a 'duh' question. ... Mar 18 2012, 05:55 PM
Angelone Ragewind's suggestions are helpful, they give ... Mar 18 2012, 06:34 PM
snowRaven QUOTE (Angelone @ Mar 18 2012, 07:34 PM) ... Mar 18 2012, 07:38 PM
VykosDarkSoul And lest ye forget o players, the proverb of the g... Mar 19 2012, 05:21 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Mar 19 2012, 05:21... Mar 19 2012, 07:32 PM
Irion But should it be like that.
I hear this in many g... Mar 20 2012, 08:43 AM
VykosDarkSoul QUOTE You have to find a spot to set up, you need ... Mar 20 2012, 01:54 PM
Irion @VykosDarkSoul
Finding a commlink does not probabl... Mar 20 2012, 03:13 PM
VykosDarkSoul We can parry and riposte back and forth all day ab... Mar 20 2012, 03:27 PM
Irion @VykosDarkSoul
The problem with this view is, that... Mar 20 2012, 04:03 PM
The Wrestling Troll If you want to boost your damage value as a melee ... Mar 20 2012, 06:03 PM
VykosDarkSoul I believe Muy Thai offers the same benefits as Box... Mar 20 2012, 06:20 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Mar 20 2012, 11:20... Mar 20 2012, 06:22 PM
The Wrestling Troll don't forget that martial arts count toward po... Mar 20 2012, 06:30 PM
Glyph QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Mar 20 2012, 08:27... Mar 21 2012, 05:26 AM
Kolinho QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 21 2012, 05:26 AM) It ... Mar 21 2012, 11:02 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 20 2012, 11:26 PM) 15 ... Mar 21 2012, 01:28 PM
The Wrestling Troll If you take changeling you can also take the posit... Mar 21 2012, 10:53 AM
VykosDarkSoul QUOTE I also roleplay like crazy - even my most po... Mar 21 2012, 03:25 PM
KarmaInferno Eh. If you're not making sure your character a... Mar 21 2012, 03:41 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 21 2012, 08:41 ... Mar 21 2012, 04:18 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Mar 21 2012, 03:15 ... Mar 21 2012, 07:04 PM
Irion The point is there is minmaxing, powergaming and m... Mar 21 2012, 08:03 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Irion @ Mar 21 2012, 08:03 PM) The... Mar 21 2012, 08:10 PM
Chainsaw Samurai Everything comes down to table-balance. If everyo... Mar 21 2012, 09:36 PM
VykosDarkSoul QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Mar 21 2012, 04... Mar 21 2012, 09:41 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Mar 21 2012, 03... Mar 21 2012, 09:48 PM
Kolinho QUOTE (Chainsaw Samurai @ Mar 21 2012, 09... Mar 21 2012, 09:49 PM
Chainsaw Samurai QUOTE (Kolinho @ Mar 21 2012, 02:49 PM) G... Mar 21 2012, 10:16 PM
Kolinho Aye, exactly. OP characters raise the bar for ever... Mar 21 2012, 10:20 PM
toturi QUOTE (Kolinho @ Mar 22 2012, 06:20 AM) A... Mar 22 2012, 02:42 AM
Kolinho QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 22 2012, 02:42 AM) I ... Mar 22 2012, 11:50 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (toturi @ Mar 21 2012, 07:42 PM) I ... Mar 22 2012, 04:50 PM
VykosDarkSoul QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 22 2012, 11... Mar 22 2012, 04:59 PM
Glyph Personally, while I concur that drastic difference... Mar 22 2012, 04:17 AM
Irion @Chainsaw Samurai
But now you have to think ahead.... Mar 22 2012, 06:51 AM
Yerameyahu toturi, the problem is also that they're a tea... Mar 22 2012, 06:20 PM
Chainsaw Samurai QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 22 2012, 11:20 AM... Mar 22 2012, 06:25 PM
toturi QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 23 2012, 02:20 AM... Mar 22 2012, 11:36 PM
Yerameyahu Yes, he does and can. And while it's not nece... Mar 22 2012, 11:49 PM
toturi QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 23 2012, 07:49 AM... Mar 23 2012, 02:13 AM![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 21st May 2013 - 09:06 PM |
Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.