Mar 24 2012, 04:10 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 17-January 10 From: Sweden Member No.: 18,046 |
Sustaining a spell adds a stacking -2 penalty to "all other tests" in spellcasting on SR4A p. 182.
Drain resistance is a named exception for this. But, damage resistance is a test too, right? and "Other tests" does that mean spellcasting is not included? I.e. it debuffs things like shooting and hacking and speaking to people but not spellcasting? How about defending against attacks in combat? I didn't really think much about it before and just assumed it was everything but damage/drain resistance since I thought mages were powerful enough anyway but it makes a LOT of spells obsolete unless you can max out them at ludicrous force (Who want +3 reaction when you only net 1 defense severely debuffs everything else) I guess that is why most mages in my game have just spammed stunbolt/ball and maybe a heal but completely ignored everything you can't put in a sustaining focus... or? -------------------- CharED, shadowrun character editor/generator. Help wanted!
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Mar 24 2012, 09:34 PM
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Advocatus Diaboli ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,989 Joined: 20-November 07 From: USA Member No.: 14,282 |
As they should, because that's what makes sense for anything like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Like I said: if the rule is that sustaining affects Damage Resistance, etc., then the very first thing you do is houserule that.
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Mar 24 2012, 09:52 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 22-March 12 Member No.: 51,183 |
As they should, because that's what makes sense for anything like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Like I said: if the rule is that sustaining affects Damage Resistance, etc., then the very first thing you do is houserule that. I agree. If a test is not effected by being unconscious then it shouldn't be effected by focusing yourself on something (ie damage resistance). -------------------- I've been Running since there was a Soviet Union.
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Surukai Sustaining spells and "other tests" Mar 24 2012, 04:10 PM
Yerameyahu Any *skill* test, AFAIK? It does seem a little slo... Mar 24 2012, 04:14 PM
UmaroVI No, it applies to everything that isn't Drain. Mar 24 2012, 04:24 PM
Neraph QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Mar 24 2012, 11:24 AM) N... Mar 24 2012, 04:52 PM
Surukai Y: I guess that makes sense. I assume it includes ... Mar 24 2012, 04:25 PM
UmaroVI Right. The one thing it doesn't apply to is th... Mar 24 2012, 04:26 PM
Surukai It sounds kind of strange that a mage with 2 spell... Mar 24 2012, 04:49 PM
UmaroVI I can't find any exceptions other than Drain, ... Mar 24 2012, 05:08 PM
Neraph QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Mar 24 2012, 12:08 PM) I... Mar 24 2012, 06:06 PM
Yerameyahu Definitely spellcasting, Surakai.
That just seems... Mar 24 2012, 05:48 PM
Yerameyahu HA. Jesus, Neraph, the female thing is an all-new ... Mar 24 2012, 06:19 PM
UmaroVI I think the argument that it only applies to magic... Mar 24 2012, 08:29 PM
Yerameyahu I agree. It should apply to almost everything (but... Mar 24 2012, 08:36 PM
Neko Asakami Personally, I rule that it's anything the char... Mar 24 2012, 08:50 PM
Eratosthenes QUOTE (Neko Asakami @ Mar 24 2012, 03:50 ... Mar 24 2012, 08:56 PM
Neko Asakami Yeah, I should have said it a bit better.
Edit my... Mar 24 2012, 09:00 PM
UmaroVI I agree, actually. Threading applies a penalty to ... Mar 24 2012, 09:19 PM
UmaroVI I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Mages ... Mar 24 2012, 09:46 PM
Neko Asakami Umaro, I was quoting that mostly to agree with you... Mar 24 2012, 09:49 PM
Yerameyahu It just doesn't make sense. It's a distrac... Mar 24 2012, 09:49 PM
Yerameyahu Now, if you *did* want to specifically make mages ... Mar 24 2012, 09:54 PM
UmaroVI There's one place where it says it is "di... Mar 25 2012, 12:06 AM
Yerameyahu Yeah. So, I'd either rule that it's actual... Mar 25 2012, 02:29 AM
Thanee Going by RAW it would probably count towards Damag... Mar 25 2012, 08:26 AM
Irion Actually RAW states, that it should only count tow... Mar 25 2012, 09:33 AM
Yerameyahu I wouldn't say that. There is at most an impli... Mar 25 2012, 02:21 PM
Irion @Yerameyahu
Well, it is mostly like that. Actually... Mar 25 2012, 04:42 PM![]() ![]() |
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