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Surukai
post Mar 24 2012, 04:10 PM
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Sustaining a spell adds a stacking -2 penalty to "all other tests" in spellcasting on SR4A p. 182.

Drain resistance is a named exception for this.

But, damage resistance is a test too, right? and "Other tests" does that mean spellcasting is not included? I.e. it debuffs things like shooting and hacking and speaking to people but not spellcasting?

How about defending against attacks in combat?

I didn't really think much about it before and just assumed it was everything but damage/drain resistance since I thought mages were powerful enough anyway but it makes a LOT of spells obsolete unless you can max out them at ludicrous force (Who want +3 reaction when you only net 1 defense severely debuffs everything else)

I guess that is why most mages in my game have just spammed stunbolt/ball and maybe a heal but completely ignored everything you can't put in a sustaining focus... or?
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Yerameyahu
post Mar 24 2012, 09:34 PM
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As they should, because that's what makes sense for anything like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Like I said: if the rule is that sustaining affects Damage Resistance, etc., then the very first thing you do is houserule that.
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post Mar 24 2012, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 24 2012, 10:34 PM) *
As they should, because that's what makes sense for anything like this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Like I said: if the rule is that sustaining affects Damage Resistance, etc., then the very first thing you do is houserule that.


I agree. If a test is not effected by being unconscious then it shouldn't be effected by focusing yourself on something (ie damage resistance).
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- Surukai   Sustaining spells and "other tests"   Mar 24 2012, 04:10 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Any *skill* test, AFAIK? It does seem a little slo...   Mar 24 2012, 04:14 PM
- - UmaroVI   No, it applies to everything that isn't Drain.   Mar 24 2012, 04:24 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Mar 24 2012, 11:24 AM) N...   Mar 24 2012, 04:52 PM
- - Surukai   Y: I guess that makes sense. I assume it includes ...   Mar 24 2012, 04:25 PM
- - UmaroVI   Right. The one thing it doesn't apply to is th...   Mar 24 2012, 04:26 PM
- - Surukai   It sounds kind of strange that a mage with 2 spell...   Mar 24 2012, 04:49 PM
- - UmaroVI   I can't find any exceptions other than Drain, ...   Mar 24 2012, 05:08 PM
|- - Neraph   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Mar 24 2012, 12:08 PM) I...   Mar 24 2012, 06:06 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Definitely spellcasting, Surakai. That just seems...   Mar 24 2012, 05:48 PM
- - Yerameyahu   HA. Jesus, Neraph, the female thing is an all-new ...   Mar 24 2012, 06:19 PM
- - UmaroVI   I think the argument that it only applies to magic...   Mar 24 2012, 08:29 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I agree. It should apply to almost everything (but...   Mar 24 2012, 08:36 PM
- - Neko Asakami   Personally, I rule that it's anything the char...   Mar 24 2012, 08:50 PM
|- - Eratosthenes   QUOTE (Neko Asakami @ Mar 24 2012, 03:50 ...   Mar 24 2012, 08:56 PM
- - Neko Asakami   Yeah, I should have said it a bit better. Edit my...   Mar 24 2012, 09:00 PM
- - UmaroVI   I agree, actually. Threading applies a penalty to ...   Mar 24 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Yerameyahu   As they should, because that's what makes sens...   Mar 24 2012, 09:34 PM
|- - HaxDBeheader   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Mar 24 2012, 10:34 PM...   Mar 24 2012, 09:52 PM
- - UmaroVI   I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Mages ...   Mar 24 2012, 09:46 PM
- - Neko Asakami   Umaro, I was quoting that mostly to agree with you...   Mar 24 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It just doesn't make sense. It's a distrac...   Mar 24 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Now, if you *did* want to specifically make mages ...   Mar 24 2012, 09:54 PM
- - UmaroVI   There's one place where it says it is "di...   Mar 25 2012, 12:06 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Yeah. So, I'd either rule that it's actual...   Mar 25 2012, 02:29 AM
- - Thanee   Going by RAW it would probably count towards Damag...   Mar 25 2012, 08:26 AM
- - Irion   Actually RAW states, that it should only count tow...   Mar 25 2012, 09:33 AM
- - Yerameyahu   I wouldn't say that. There is at most an impli...   Mar 25 2012, 02:21 PM
- - Irion   @Yerameyahu Well, it is mostly like that. Actually...   Mar 25 2012, 04:42 PM


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