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Thistledown
post Apr 12 2004, 07:49 AM
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Ok, my standard group is trying out a new GM, (giving me a break), but he and I are working togather a lot out of character to make sure things go well. So, thought I'd ask for some advice here.

We know there is no magical time-travel in shadowrun, so he had a group set up a technological means of going to the past. The group's goal is to change the results of the "Lone Eagle Incident," which is what had a huge part in the Native Americans rallying so much and eventually led to the NAN's. The group want's to stop this. (Group is loosely based off the New Revolution in Threats2)

The head scientist for this group is working against her will, but manages to get a shadowrun team (us) to break into the facility, and use the same machine to go back and make sure the incident happens the way it did before.

Ok, it would have been nice for the scientist to give us a bit more info before we get to the facility, because now we can't leave until after the timeline is fixed. But anyway, we go back to Montana in 2009 about 3 weeks before the incident is scheduled.

For the magic characters, we basically called it a mana warp with a background count of 7. We also let metahumans keep their meta-ness, although disguises are needed for some. The party is also hiding any cyberware, etc.

He and I have even stranger things planned for later, where I might have more questions, but for now, I have only a few.

1. Two of the characters are interested in using knowledge of the stock market, etc. to earn money for our characters over the 55 years between then and ... now (2064). The GM told the players that they would be docked karma for messing with time like that, which the players have agreed to. My question here is, would it be possible to give a stock broker (or firm) a script of stocks to buy and sell at certain points in the next 50 years, and not need any contact with him for 50 years or so? They want to avoid knowing about any of this beforehand to avoid time-problems, so the broker would be told not to try and contact until later in 2064. Also, if this does work, what kind of complications would arrise from starting with about 10k and withdrawing it in the mucho bucks range later?

2. Questions of availability. If you wanted to get a hold of something, say, Heavy Military Armor, and told somebody that if they find one in that timespan, to hold unto it until 2064 for you, would you have to deal with availability, street index, etc? One of the characters has a contact who is old enough for this to work, but there's also the question of price for this kind of thing.

Any other ideas you have could be helpful to.
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- Thistledown   Shadowrunning in 2009   Apr 12 2004, 07:49 AM
- - mfb   well, heavy military armor probably won't exis...   Apr 12 2004, 08:15 AM
- - Digital Heroin   1. mfb brings up the perfect point. Unless they in...   Apr 12 2004, 08:25 AM
- - mfb   not to mention, contacting someone in 2009 that yo...   Apr 12 2004, 08:30 AM
- - Voran   Here are my thoughts. 1. I imagine the stockma...   Apr 12 2004, 08:38 AM
- - Voran   Yknow the more I think about this, the more I get ...   Apr 12 2004, 08:52 AM
- - Digital Heroin   The golden rule of Time Travel (tm): Do not, for ...   Apr 12 2004, 08:55 AM
- - Arethusa   I'd like to point out that if you find a conta...   Apr 12 2004, 09:06 AM
- - Voran   QUOTE (Arethusa) I'd like to point out that if...   Apr 12 2004, 09:13 AM
- - Arethusa   See? Now you're getting it! Of course, s...   Apr 12 2004, 09:41 AM
- - cykotek   Step 1: Time travel. Make sure the GM determines...   Apr 12 2004, 09:56 AM
- - Mimick   Screw investment, it's too iffy, what you need...   Apr 12 2004, 10:30 AM
- - nezumi   What I'd say would be safest for them to make ...   Apr 12 2004, 02:11 PM
- - Seven Deadly SINs   One question about this whole time travel thing? ...   Apr 12 2004, 02:46 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Geeze, don't you guys watch movies? The ways ...   Apr 12 2004, 03:01 PM
- - shadd4d   You still have the problem of seed funds. Yes they...   Apr 12 2004, 03:15 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Well, if the PCs want to do either, they'd hav...   Apr 12 2004, 03:41 PM
- - Panzergeist   You would obviously want to convert your money int...   Apr 12 2004, 04:29 PM
- - The White Dwarf   Its not even hard to just get seed money while the...   Apr 12 2004, 05:03 PM
- - TinkerGnome   Damn, I wish I hadn't just started a different...   Apr 12 2004, 05:12 PM
- - Siege   Terminator 2 -- just sketch out the basics for a n...   Apr 12 2004, 05:12 PM
- - Lantzer   A couple of notes on time travel: 1) Its your gam...   Apr 12 2004, 05:42 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   I am in favor of having the PCs be responsible for...   Apr 12 2004, 05:55 PM
- - Moonstone Spider   Hmm, if you want to screw with the timeline have t...   Apr 12 2004, 07:03 PM
- - Thistledown   First, some clarifications: The head scientist pe...   Apr 12 2004, 07:34 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Thistledown)The group's goal is to chan...   Apr 12 2004, 07:44 PM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (Thistledown) VITAS. Oooh, I hadn't con...   Apr 12 2004, 07:49 PM
- - Lantzer   A fun variation: The team goes to all this effort...   Apr 12 2004, 08:30 PM
- - Thistledown   QUOTE (Cray74) QUOTE (Thistledown)The group's ...   Apr 12 2004, 10:38 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)If you're getting i...   Apr 12 2004, 10:49 PM
- - Voran   That brings up an interesting philosophical questi...   Apr 12 2004, 10:57 PM
- - mfb   i've never understood the morality behind ...   Apr 12 2004, 11:01 PM
- - CardboardArmor   This is starting to sound like the third Governato...   Apr 12 2004, 11:34 PM
- - Moonstone Spider   I agree, changing the timeline is good. Sure, you...   Apr 13 2004, 12:58 AM
- - TinkerGnome   I'll have some of whatever Moonstone Spider is...   Apr 13 2004, 01:04 AM
- - Arethusa   As I believe it's been said, if you have never...   Apr 13 2004, 01:10 AM
- - Moonstone Spider   What's so confusing about it? Just accept tha...   Apr 13 2004, 01:48 AM
- - mfb   i think the most eloquent, easy-to-understand expl...   Apr 13 2004, 01:53 AM
- - Arethusa   It's initially confusing for everyone, no matt...   Apr 13 2004, 02:10 AM
- - mfb   which leads to my views on the nature of science a...   Apr 13 2004, 03:06 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   String theory holds that there is one timeline, so...   Apr 13 2004, 03:28 AM
- - BGMFH   Followed the link. Read for 20 minutes. My head ...   Apr 13 2004, 04:17 AM
- - kevyn668   There is no spoon.   Apr 13 2004, 04:31 AM
- - Herald of Verjigorm   QUOTE (kevyn668) There is no spoon. All are sp...   Apr 13 2004, 04:36 AM
- - theartthief   QUOTE (Moonstone Spider)What's so confusing ab...   Apr 13 2004, 05:35 AM
- - mfb   bad example. Dunk is formerly a dragon; now, he...   Apr 13 2004, 07:17 AM
- - Arethusa   Fuck it. Motherfucker is dragonesque.   Apr 13 2004, 07:53 AM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)This is an essay on tim...   Apr 13 2004, 10:27 AM
- - shadd4d   What stops the runners (time changing evil-doers) ...   Apr 13 2004, 12:10 PM
- - mfb   eh. that's an okay system to use if you're...   Apr 13 2004, 12:14 PM
- - CardboardArmor   Screw it. Kill everyone at the Lone Eagle silo, t...   Apr 13 2004, 01:02 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (mfb)eh. that's an okay system to use if...   Apr 13 2004, 01:42 PM
- - mfb   yes, but it doesn't particularly matter, in th...   Apr 13 2004, 01:53 PM
- - Arethusa   And that is a very good point and one that's a...   Apr 13 2004, 01:56 PM
- - mfb   even if they could, they wouldn't know it!   Apr 13 2004, 01:59 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (mfb)yes, but it doesn't particularly ma...   Apr 13 2004, 02:24 PM
- - mfb   but you're not saving anyone, and you're n...   Apr 13 2004, 03:22 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (mfb)but you're not saving anyone, and y...   Apr 13 2004, 03:31 PM
- - mfb   yes, but there's no point in going back in the...   Apr 13 2004, 03:37 PM
- - Cray74   QUOTE (mfb) my argument for the many-worlds thing ...   Apr 13 2004, 03:50 PM
- - mfb   it only looks like placing effect before cause if ...   Apr 13 2004, 03:57 PM
- - Siege   QUOTE (Cray74) QUOTE (mfb @ Apr 13 2004, 03:3...   Apr 13 2004, 06:25 PM
- - Fahr   and then there is always the question of, would we...   Apr 13 2004, 07:05 PM
- - Rokangus   Hi. I'm the GM of this crazy, messed-up campai...   Apr 19 2004, 05:51 AM
- - Arethusa   Not commenting on the rest of everything, but I...   Apr 19 2004, 05:59 AM
- - Crusher Bob   If the team members left some fingerprints behind,...   Apr 19 2004, 06:21 AM
- - mfb   i'm curious as to what the runners used for ca...   Apr 19 2004, 06:34 AM
- - Rokangus   Meh...true, Delta is black ops isn't it? Ah we...   Apr 19 2004, 06:44 AM


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