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Apr 5 2012, 01:10 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 17,839 |
So, I got back into Missions play after a year-long hiatus.
[its good to be back, btw] One of my GMs mentioned that certain part s of War had been disallowed from Missions play. [really hoping my runner's wing suit hasn't been disallowed] Which got me to wondering >Which books ARE legal sources for SRM players?< Is there a resources listing somewhere that my search-fu has weakly overlooked? |
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Apr 5 2012, 03:15 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,353 |
Right now War! and other books are legal. Typically they become legal about 30 days after release. However, Bull's working on a new FAQ which is meant to cover books like War!. Now when this FAQ will come out, I don't know. My guess right now is "eventually."
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Apr 5 2012, 03:53 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,300 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
As a side note, and I need to update the FAQ posts and restart those, we're pushing to do a new FAQ and get it released hopefully prior to the convention season. I drafted Can Ray to help collect data, but since he broke his arm, we haven't really gotten rolling yet.
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Apr 5 2012, 04:18 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 17,839 |
Thanks guys,
I was just looking at some of the extra books out there [Mil Spec Tec, This Old Drone, jet Set, & the like] & didn't know if they were valid resources. I'll move ahead with my runner updates. Joe |
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Apr 5 2012, 07:11 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,531 Joined: 1-July 10 Member No.: 18,778 |
Do note that anything labelled "optional rules" is by default off in SRM. So, for example, the entirety of Way of the Adept is out.
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Apr 10 2012, 02:57 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
What's the official stance on German/French content, e.g. the Altmayr SP from the German Arsenal? Are they allowed in Missions?
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Apr 15 2012, 03:40 AM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,973 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Also, gear from published adventures, is that kosher?
Assuming it has the proper stats, availability, costs, etc. needed to actually be usable outside of the adventure. -k -------------------- I see myself as witty, urbane, highly talented, hugely successful with a keen sense of style. Plus of course my own special brand of modesty.
I play a geriatric black ops ninja wizard with laser eyes, and a pink mohawked pixie driving a human suit. I optimize ...differently. |
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Apr 15 2012, 09:06 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,300 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
Elfenlied: unfortunately, no. Missions only uses Catalyst game Labs published products.
Karma: Yes. And to confirm, it's 30 days after the final release of a product. For print products, this is 30 days after a products in-store street date, not it's PDF release. For PDF-Only products, it's simply 30 days after the PDF is released on the Battleshop and Drive Thru. Bull -------------------- --
Steven "Bull" Ratkovich Shadowrun Missions Developer |
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Apr 30 2012, 09:23 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 6-October 07 Member No.: 13,579 |
May I ask if Way of the Adept is legal now?
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Apr 30 2012, 10:16 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 601 Joined: 18-August 07 Member No.: 12,735 |
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May 1 2012, 05:08 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,780 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I've talked to Bull specifically about WotA, and it's verboten. Sorry folks.
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May 1 2012, 01:28 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 6-October 07 Member No.: 13,579 |
Understood. Thank you for you replies guys.
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May 2 2012, 02:31 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 623 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Is there a list of official rulings on ambiguous rules somewhere?
-------------------- "I don't like vegetarians. They steal my food's food." - Seriously Mike
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May 2 2012, 05:01 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,780 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I was supposed to be working on something, then I took an arrow to the elbow.
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May 2 2012, 03:51 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,973 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
I've talked to Bull specifically about WotA, and it's verboten. Sorry folks. I would point out that the book itself specifically states it's not legal for Missions. -k -------------------- I see myself as witty, urbane, highly talented, hugely successful with a keen sense of style. Plus of course my own special brand of modesty.
I play a geriatric black ops ninja wizard with laser eyes, and a pink mohawked pixie driving a human suit. I optimize ...differently. |
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May 2 2012, 05:28 PM
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,973 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Also, gear from published adventures, is that kosher? Assuming it has the proper stats, availability, costs, etc. needed to actually be usable outside of the adventure. -k Karma: Yes. Bull You know, I was asking because going to have my rigger buy a Aztechnology Huitzilopochtli out of Ghost Cartels, but thinking about it, I will not. Because quite frankly playing a character running around with 15 vehicular armor on top of the immunity to stun will make many combats distinctly un-fun for both me and any GMs I run across. That thing can take a full on Assault Cannon to the face without a scratch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) And I'm probably going to be sitting at your tables at Origins and I don't want you murdering me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So I'm stepping down to the Otomo. Which says something if the Otomo is the downgraded option. -k -------------------- I see myself as witty, urbane, highly talented, hugely successful with a keen sense of style. Plus of course my own special brand of modesty.
I play a geriatric black ops ninja wizard with laser eyes, and a pink mohawked pixie driving a human suit. I optimize ...differently. |
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May 5 2012, 01:44 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 601 Joined: 18-August 07 Member No.: 12,735 |
Are martial arts allowed?
I know that the last time I checked they weren't, but then I started running the NYC missions at a convention and I noticed that the Marquee Bouncer in Ready, Set, Gogh! has them. QUOTE MARQUEE BOUNCER
B A R S C I L W M EDG ESS Init IP 5 5 5 4 2 3 3 3 5 4 6 10 3 Active Skills: Pistols 4, Perception 3, Shadowing 4, Unarmed Combat (Kenpo) 5 (7), Dodge 3 Gear: Commlink (Hermes Ikon with Iris Orb), Contacts (with Smartlink and Image Link) Adept Powers: Improved Reflexes 2, Combat Sense 2 Qualities: Kenpo (+1 die on melee block), Herding Maneuver |
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May 5 2012, 09:52 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,300 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
As per the FAQ, Martial Arts are not allowed.
Like Blood Magic and Insect Shamans, there are occasionally things that PCs can't do that NPCs will have. So as a GM, I suggest just rolling with it. That said, none of the newer Missions have allowed Martial Arts on the NPCs (this one is before my time, so I can't say why the decision to allow it was made, since Martial Arts wasn't allowed in Season 3 either). Occasionally we'll also do things like have a footnote on an NPC taht will say something like "If you're not using this as part of the official Missions Living Campaign, you can add these optional rules". I believe Critias has done that a couple times for Way of teh Adept abilities... So that if Missions is being used strictly as a home game module, GMs can utilize the optional rules, but for Missions play they have "legal" stat blocks as well. Bull -------------------- --
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May 6 2012, 04:05 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 623 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
As per the FAQ, Martial Arts are not allowed. Like Blood Magic and Insect Shamans, there are occasionally things that PCs can't do that NPCs will have. Shenanigans! -------------------- "I don't like vegetarians. They steal my food's food." - Seriously Mike
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May 6 2012, 05:23 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,780 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
NPCs cheat, you haven't learned that yet?
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May 6 2012, 07:00 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 623 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
I refuse to do it as a GM and as such I reserve the right to complain about it.
-------------------- "I don't like vegetarians. They steal my food's food." - Seriously Mike
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May 6 2012, 07:02 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,780 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
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May 6 2012, 07:19 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 623 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
You need new players (and a smaller toybox)
-------------------- "I don't like vegetarians. They steal my food's food." - Seriously Mike
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May 6 2012, 09:06 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,300 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
I refuse to do it as a GM and as such I reserve the right to complain about it. Well, you'll have to cope with Blood Mages and insect Shamans. Those will remain NPC only, and will appear occasionally in missions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As for the other stuff, like i said, that's why now when they are included in the Mission, they're specifically listed as something only to use in home games if you're using those rules options. Bull -------------------- --
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