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Eratosthenes
post Apr 10 2012, 03:57 PM
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That, and the game is, as stated by the developer(s), not even in beta. It's still alpha.

There are bugs a plenty, and balance issues galore. Not being able to spend all that money (and risk having it stolen) is likely one of them. Ideally money one gets via char gen would be untouchable from said penalties (but is always spent first for gear).
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Tiny Deev @ Apr 10 2012, 03:57 AM) *
The license for a digital shadowrun game was bought off of Microsoft by Cliffhanger Studios, who was going to make a browser game themselves. They ran out of funding and John Weisman bought it off them for a lot less.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/www.harebrained-sc...infographic.jpg

Ofcourse, we're willing to stop if Mr. Weisman asks us to. I hope it won't come to that though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Cliffhanger got their rights from Smith & Tinker, and are still in production for Shadowrun Online.

Again, it's not Mr. Weisman that you have to worry about, it's Microsoft.

Talk to the guy about getting a sub-license. Seriously. Worst that can happen is he'll say "no".

Or, y'know, spend a lot of time, effort, blood, sweat, and tears on something only to have it yanked away, just like the previous coupla of unlicensed projects. Pretty much everyone warned them of the possible hammer coming down too, but they ignored it. Didn't work out so well for them.

I know I sound like a wet blanket, but I wouldn't even bother posting if I didn't care.




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post Apr 10 2012, 04:03 PM
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Of course you're right, KarmaInferno. We realise we can have the rug pulled out from under us. Perhaps it is time to send that e-mail, indeed.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:04 PM
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But really, is there any way I can tell if my Armor spell is still working?

Also, can I only cast non-combat spells in my safehouse?
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Apr 10 2012, 06:04 PM) *
But really, is there any way I can tell if my Armor spell is still working?

Apologies, I overlooked the question. Yes, you can check your character info and see the buffs and debuffs section. Also, under the information section where it says "Armor" it should say your armour and then your buffed armour in parentheses.

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Also, can I only cast non-combat spells in my safehouse?

No, non-combat spells can only be cast from the safe house (for now.)
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:11 PM
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Thanks.

I know the shaman is not optimal, but I'll keep trying to make it work.

Is there anyway I can lower the target numbers for spells?
Or any chance of finding/buying a sustaining focus?
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Apr 10 2012, 06:11 PM) *
Thanks.

I know the shaman is not optimal, but I'll keep trying to make it work.

Is there anyway I can lower the target numbers for spells?
Or any chance of finding/buying a sustaining focus?

That's the biggest problem for magic users right now, their target numbers are ultra high and the drain usually necks them. I wish I could give them some more love in terms of sustaining foci and such, but I can't just yet. It's on my list, though.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:16 PM
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OK, so I had 7 stun and 5 physical.
I cast heal and this is what happened:

[2012-04-10 11:12:10]
Cast Heal (5)
Sorcery: 6(9): 1 (2, 5, 2, 14, 8, 5)
Drain: 6(5): 4 (2, 5, 5, 5, 5, 3)
Drain damage: 2Ms -> none

My essence is 6 so the TN should be 4, meaning I got 4 successes. But all of my damage is healed.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Apr 10 2012, 06:16 PM) *
OK, so I had 7 stun and 5 physical.
I cast heal and this is what happened:

[2012-04-10 11:12:10]
Cast Heal (5)
Sorcery: 6(9): 1 (2, 5, 2, 14, 8, 5)
Drain: 6(5): 4 (2, 5, 5, 5, 5, 3)
Drain damage: 2Ms -> none

My essence is 6 so the TN should be 4, meaning I got 4 successes. But all of my damage is healed.

That's correct. You cast the heal at force 5 so 5 boxes of physical are healed. Perhaps I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (DV8 @ Apr 10 2012, 11:17 AM) *
That's correct. You cast the heal at force 5 so 5 boxes of physical are healed. Perhaps I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.


Sounds like he is sayin it healed the 7 stun AND the 5 phys?
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Apr 10 2012, 06:28 PM) *
Sounds like he is sayin it healed the 7 stun AND the 5 phys?

Ah, in that case, that's certainly a problem. It depends a little bit how long he waited with casting the spell since with a high willpower or body the stun damage takes mere minutes to heal. There are many things that require my attention regarding magic users, I'll have to add this to my list.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:38 PM
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The skills that are not yet implemented are clearly marked. I went with A attributes, B skills, C race (Elf), D resources, E magic. I was basically able to max out all of my useful skills, and I had a really high Quickness. With a smartgun system and an Ares Predator, I cleared 10 ghouls pretty easily. To offer some constructive criticism:

1. Please implement support for moving on the tactical map with the arrow keys; it was really repetitive to keep clicking on those arrows.
2. I didn't see an interface on the tactical screen for reloading; is the idea that I'd just go back to the Safehouse to do that? Did I just miss something on screen?
3. In the event that you guys get a Cease and Desist, I think it would be a shame to throw away all of this work. Even without the SR license material, a cyberpunk-themed Roguelike would be awesome to have.
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Apr 10 2012, 11:38 AM) *
1. Please implement support for moving on the tactical map with the arrow keys; it was really repetitive to keep clicking on those arrows.
2. I didn't see an interface on the tactical screen for reloading; is the idea that I'd just go back to the Safehouse to do that? Did I just miss something on screen?
3. In the event that you guys get a Cease and Desist, I think it would be a shame to throw away all of this work. Even without the SR license material, a cyberpunk-themed Roguelike would be awesome to have.


1) WASD works as well
2) Click your Icon and you get a reload option
3) agreed!
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post Apr 10 2012, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (DV8 @ Apr 10 2012, 09:17 AM) *
That's correct. You cast the heal at force 5 so 5 boxes of physical are healed. Perhaps I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me.


Stupid different versions of the game!
You're right. I was confused. No it didn't heal my stun. Everything worked like it's supposed to.
THanks.
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Bearclaw @ Apr 10 2012, 11:46 AM) *
I don't think he's one of the developers.


I know he isn't. But I really hate people saying "Well, you don't make X, so you're unqualified and incompetent to comment on X."

QUOTE (DV8 @ Apr 10 2012, 11:52 AM) *
Please make note of the fact that I never dismissed your arguments because you're not a developer. I'm not too fond of your overly abbrassive style, but I'm taking things you say into consideration. I might not agree on everything you say, but you make some valid points and I'll keep listening to them as long as you keep trying to watch your tone a bit.


I didn't say it to you at all, DV8. I said it to Stahlseele, because he busted out the "you don't do X, so you're not qualified to talk about the product of X" argument.
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Apr 10 2012, 02:53 PM) *
I know he isn't. But I really hate people saying "Well, you don't make X, so you're unqualified and incompetent to comment on X."


It's kinda like saying that you can't hate the ending of Mass Effect 3 because "How many pieces of interactive fiction with multiple endings have YOU written?"
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post Apr 10 2012, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 10 2012, 02:58 PM) *
It's kinda like saying that you can't hate the ending of Mass Effect 3 because "How many pieces of interactive fiction with multiple endings have YOU written?"


You can't criticize my character! How many pixie death-eater heavy weapon toting shaman cyberzombies have YOU created?!
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post Apr 10 2012, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 10 2012, 03:59 PM) *
You can't criticize my character! How many pixie death-eater heavy weapon toting shaman cyberzombies have YOU created?!



If your Pixie Death Eater heavy-weapon guy/girl cyberzombie shaman also a pornomancer? I'm having a hard time figuring out how it talked Lord Voldemort into letting it join his ranks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 10 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Apr 10 2012, 02:02 PM) *
If your Pixie Death Eater heavy-weapon guy/girl cyberzombie shaman also a pornomancer? I'm having a hard time figuring out how it talked Lord Voldemort into letting it join his ranks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Nahh... caffineomancer...
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post Apr 10 2012, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (VykosDarkSoul @ Apr 10 2012, 06:44 PM) *
1) WASD works as well

As does R to reload your weapon, and H, to hold your action!
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Eratosthenes @ Apr 10 2012, 09:59 PM) *
You can't criticize my character! How many pixie death-eater heavy weapon toting shaman cyberzombies have YOU created?!

Three. Yours was the worst I've seen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 11 2012, 12:45 AM
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Registered under "Old Man Jones", got the registration e-mail, but it won't let me past the login.

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post Apr 11 2012, 01:30 AM
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probably does not like spaces in the name . .
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post Apr 11 2012, 02:22 AM
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I noticed the damage on bone lacing doesn't seem to work, or atleast not show in any info I can see.
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post Apr 11 2012, 05:10 AM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Apr 11 2012, 02:45 AM) *
Registered under "Old Man Jones", got the registration e-mail, but it won't let me past the login.

there seems to be nothing wrong with the account. Want me to reset the password for you?
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