 Called shots - increase DV, Does the increase count as "modified DV"? |
 Apr 13 2012, 01:31 PM
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If you use a called shot to increase your DV by 4 (SR4A p.161), does this count as the "modified DV" and therefore count toward exceeding hardened armor values (like for spirits with immunity to normal weapons), or is the increased damage like a narrow burst, where it doesn't add towards the "modified" DV...?
If it does add, this is a pretty good way for a mundane to beat a spirit isn't it? Heavy pistol, ex-explosive ammo, called shot to add another 3 or 4 DV (downside losing 3 or 4 attack dice, but that's not too bad with a decent starting pool of say 12? Esp if use edge too) - then assuming a hit, gives a much better chance of beating the ITNW hardened armour? |
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Psikerlord Called shots - increase DV Apr 13 2012, 01:31 PM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Psikerlord @ Apr 13 2012, 06:31 AM... Apr 13 2012, 03:02 PM Bearclaw Yea, I could see going along with that. Or maybe ... Apr 13 2012, 03:45 PM Makki usually the one with the big gun doesn't have ... Apr 13 2012, 04:10 PM Yerameyahu Agreed: the shooter (the *character*) should have ... Apr 13 2012, 06:38 PM snowRaven Yeah, if the target is a spirit the shooter better... Apr 13 2012, 10:15 PM Umidori It never made sense to me that you can't make ... Apr 14 2012, 08:15 AM Makki Attack of Will ranged would be considerably better... Apr 14 2012, 08:53 AM
Tymeaus Jalynsfein QUOTE (Makki @ Apr 14 2012, 02:53 AM) Att... Apr 14 2012, 04:27 PM Glyph I'm kind of dubious about requiring a special ... Apr 14 2012, 10:50 AM Yerameyahu AFAIK, there's something special about forming... Apr 14 2012, 04:58 PM Falconer I agree.. you don't need knowledge/anatomy to ... Apr 14 2012, 07:01 PM Yerameyahu But you're always trying for center of mass, a... Apr 14 2012, 07:40 PM snowRaven IF spirits have vulnerable spots that can be targe... Apr 14 2012, 08:42 PM Psikerlord Reading over called shots again, it does say you c... Apr 14 2012, 11:15 PM Yerameyahu There's also no reason, fluff-wise, that they ... Apr 14 2012, 11:32 PM FriendoftheDork I don't allow it to work vs armor for two rea... Apr 14 2012, 11:42 PM Yerameyahu There is that: it's an unresolved balance issu... Apr 14 2012, 11:51 PM Glyph I would only disallow armor bypassing on spirits f... Apr 15 2012, 01:41 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Glyph @ Apr 15 2012, 03:41 AM) I w... Apr 15 2012, 01:48 AM Yerameyahu Can you explain that better, Glyph? I still don... Apr 15 2012, 02:02 AM Glyph QUOTE (FriendoftheDork @ Apr 14 2012, 06... Apr 15 2012, 05:40 AM snowRaven QUOTE (Glyph @ Apr 15 2012, 07:40 AM) Why... Apr 15 2012, 11:16 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Glyph @ Apr 15 2012, 07:40 AM) Why... Apr 15 2012, 11:34 AM Elfenlied At the risk of opening a can of worms: nowhere doe... Apr 15 2012, 07:03 AM snowRaven QUOTE (Elfenlied @ Apr 15 2012, 09:03 AM)... Apr 15 2012, 10:57 AM Irion The problem is, that the called shot actually let ... Apr 15 2012, 11:05 AM snowRaven For ease of reference, I thought I'd put in so... Apr 15 2012, 12:20 PM Yerameyahu Agreed: evidence that 'the rules don't *sa... Apr 15 2012, 01:21 PM Irion Will try them:
QUOTE Some questions to think about... Apr 15 2012, 01:39 PM Yerameyahu Right, and that's probably a typical response.... Apr 15 2012, 01:58 PM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 15 2012, 03:58 PM... Apr 15 2012, 03:36 PM Yerameyahu Hah, I actually hadn't yet weighed in on the ... Apr 15 2012, 03:39 PM Falconer And once again, the no discernable or weak parts o... Apr 15 2012, 03:55 PM Irion @Yerameyahu
The problem is, if you go really RAW t... Apr 15 2012, 03:59 PM Glyph @Falconer:
Exactly. Purely by RAW, there isn... Apr 15 2012, 07:41 PM Yerameyahu Again, it's not about balance. It's about ... Apr 15 2012, 08:25 PM snowRaven QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Apr 15 2012, 10:25 PM... Apr 15 2012, 08:54 PM Irion The point is, if you only go RAW here, you should ... Apr 15 2012, 08:37 PM snowRaven QUOTE (Falconer @ Apr 15 2012, 05:55 PM) ... Apr 15 2012, 08:43 PM Yerameyahu Irion, I dunno what you're suggesting. I... Apr 15 2012, 08:48 PM Yerameyahu As long as you have a coherent and reasonable fluf... Apr 15 2012, 09:00 PM snowRaven I wouldn't call them creatures at all, since t... Apr 15 2012, 09:01 PM  |
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