 I installed Splinter Cell Conviction..., ...and deleted it 4 minutes later |
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 Apr 15 2012, 03:39 AM
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Great Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 6,031 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383  |
So, I had Splinter Cell: Conviction on Steam, and let it install itself when I went out today for a few hours.
I come back in, fire it up, and apparently I have to create some kind of online account to play the game. Fuck no. I uninstalled it. Play time per Steam? 4 minutes. If Ubisoft games from now on are going to require some kind of registration, fuck it. If nothing else, I don't want to have to remember yet another BS account name and password. It's less stressful for me to simply never buy another Ubisoft game again. -------------------- The good old days. When vampires sucked blood, not dick.
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Apr 15 2012, 03:42 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Yeah, Ubisoft has gotten some infamy for this kinda thing the past few years.
If I want to buy one, I tend to get the X-box version now. The sad thing is, the game already HAS an online registration DRM system that should be good enough. Steam. But apparently Ubisoft doesn't trust that. -k -------------------- I see myself as witty, urbane, highly talented, hugely successful with a keen sense of style. Plus of course my own special brand of modesty.
I play a geriatric black ops ninja wizard with laser eyes, and a pink mohawked pixie driving a human suit. I optimize ...differently. |
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Apr 16 2012, 08:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 765 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
Ah, Ubisoft's bullshit DRM. I decided to brave it (since I had an ubi.com account for something way back, some BS free Far Cry offer that didn't work or other) and the game isn't bad in itself. It could have been better, though.
-------------------- Mike, Seriously.
Fast and Loose in LA: because I'm not as much of a Killer GM as you think. Stahlseele: "Ve germans do not use ze v instead of an w in these cases!" |
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May 2 2012, 05:16 PM
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Running Target Group: Banned Posts: 1,105 Joined: 23-August 10 Member No.: 18,961 |
I havent purchased an EA or Ubisoft title since they started with the DRM and registration nonsense. Let em eat cake.
-------------------- Journalism is just a gun. It's only got one bullet in it, but if you aim right, that's all you need. Aim it right, and you can blow a kneecap off the world.
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May 3 2012, 02:02 AM
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Freelance Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,812 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I got it (on my 360), and enjoyed it. Despite the whole Splinter Cell thing being theoretically right up my alley (just look at most of my SR characters, for instance), I just never really enjoyed the earlier games in the series very much. They felt too much like work, too little like play.
But Conviction? In it I was Batman with a gun, and it was awesome. More of an action game than espionage, for sure, and I can understand how fans of the series were irritated -- and I can certainly understand Steam's extra download nonsense being off-putting -- but the game itself was a good time, in my opinion. If you can find it for cheap some other way, it's worth it, I'd say. -------------------- |
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May 3 2012, 02:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 6-April 02 From: ab.ca Member No.: 2,522 |
I really liked the original stealth-heavy games, and I also really liked action-heavy Conviction. It was quite fun to play Sam Fisher off the reservation and mad as hell. I found the co-op even more fun when coordinating with a friend. Now I'm tempted to go play some of that, but if I do so, I'll want to play a street sam right away. So easily distracted.
I find Ubisoft's approach to the PC of late to be quite off-putting, but I'm also a happy console gamer, so I just get their games on the xbox. The xbox remembers the ubisoft account, and I often forget I even have such a thing. -------------------- "Do you wanna gossip or do you wanna shoot somebody?"
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May 6 2012, 10:36 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,295 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Apr 15 2012, 05:42 AM)  Yeah, Ubisoft has gotten some infamy for this kinda thing the past few years. If I want to buy one, I tend to get the X-box version now. The sad thing is, the game already HAS an online registration DRM system that should be good enough. Steam. But apparently Ubisoft doesn't trust that. -k They expect you to pay for the steam service, surrendering all your base to future changes to the service, THEN you have to prove again that you legally bought the software and give them free access to (some) of your data AGAIN? Neither DRM is free, yes? I happily own DRM-free full-price games. It seems to work for some companies. I recently saw a "limited edition without DRM" for a game at a store, but can´t remember the name unfortunately. That will work for me if the price is still right. -------------------- |
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May 6 2012, 04:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968 |
I found Conviction a nice refreshing air for the series, with Sam shifting to a more proactive, hunter, stance (instead of the reactive / hunted one from the originals). And the stylish way the story is told also pleased me. But Chaos Theory remains the series´ best for me. keep playing it nowadays. (Double Agent was the worse - great ideas coupled with horrid execution)
And yeah, Ubisoft software protection model is one of the worst Ive seen. |
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May 6 2012, 06:44 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,203 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ May 6 2012, 06:36 AM) They expect you to pay for the steam service Wait, what? Steam is free. There is no payment. -------------------- Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
QUOTE (DuctShuiTengu @ May 23 2009, 10:59 AM) Shoot-outs between Gandalf and the Terminator are fairly common on runs QUOTE (Sokora) A standard mission is 20 minutes of objectives, three days of planning, and 600 seconds of mayhem. I love this post. |
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May 7 2012, 04:59 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,295 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ May 6 2012, 08:44 PM) Wait, what? Steam is free. There is no payment. How do they pay their bills? -------------------- |
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May 7 2012, 07:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 765 Joined: 19-August 11 From: Middle-Eastern Europe Member No.: 36,268 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ May 7 2012, 06:59 AM) How do they pay their bills? I believe it's included in the game prices. Actually, I think they make most on "crazy% off" sales - when they offered GTA4 with both DLC 75% off, their profits from selling that title went up FORTY-FOLD.That and their microtransaction system for TF2. -------------------- Mike, Seriously.
Fast and Loose in LA: because I'm not as much of a Killer GM as you think. Stahlseele: "Ve germans do not use ze v instead of an w in these cases!" |
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May 7 2012, 09:16 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,203 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
QUOTE (Ryu @ May 6 2012, 11:59 PM) How do they pay their bills? I suspect publishers pay Valve to put their games on Steam. Honestly, though, I neither know nor care. All I know is that I've had Steam installed on my PC for years, and haven't paid one red cent for the service. Anyone paying for Steam itself is getting scammed. -------------------- Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
QUOTE (DuctShuiTengu @ May 23 2009, 10:59 AM) Shoot-outs between Gandalf and the Terminator are fairly common on runs QUOTE (Sokora) A standard mission is 20 minutes of objectives, three days of planning, and 600 seconds of mayhem. I love this post. |
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May 7 2012, 04:29 PM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,717 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
I believe there is a small fee to put games on Steam, yes. But where Valve really makes their money is the cut they take from your game when you sell it - it's a sliding scale based on the size of your operation. Companies like EA and Activision lose something like 5% of the sale price to Valve, but smaller companies lose between 30% and 40% to Valve. If you're a smaller company, Valve also dictates what price you'll be selling your game at, when it will go on sale, and such.
I love Valve and their attitudes toward how to run a company, and their crazy ideas. But make no mistake, Valve is a stone cold bitch when it comes to Steam - you play by their rules, or they don't let your game onto the system. The only people with a more hardcore attitude toward content is Xbox LIVE, and that's because it's a closed system. -------------------- "As if I needed any more proof that RAW is a surly, unbridled horse, but Neraph rides it wherever he likes." -McAllister
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May 7 2012, 06:55 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 5,710 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Well, Valve is a business, they are not the charity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
And still it is way better money for small companies than going through the usual publishing channels, which is surely why all the Indy companies are on Steam. Bye Thanee |
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May 7 2012, 07:47 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,811 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Excellent marketing at the very least compared to Indy Channels! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Just popping up as the first thing on the screen has gotten me interested in a lot of games I'd have never seen otherwise. |
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May 10 2012, 12:27 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,978 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (Adarael @ May 7 2012, 11:29 AM) I believe there is a small fee to put games on Steam, yes. But where Valve really makes their money is the cut they take from your game when you sell it - it's a sliding scale based on the size of your operation. Companies like EA and Activision lose something like 5% of the sale price to Valve, but smaller companies lose between 30% and 40% to Valve. If you're a smaller company, Valve also dictates what price you'll be selling your game at, when it will go on sale, and such. I love Valve and their attitudes toward how to run a company, and their crazy ideas. But make no mistake, Valve is a stone cold bitch when it comes to Steam - you play by their rules, or they don't let your game onto the system. The only people with a more hardcore attitude toward content is Xbox LIVE, and that's because it's a closed system. Yeah, the main reason third party companies put up with Valve's requirements is because they usually stand to make a LOT more money then they could ever hope to on their own, even with that huge cut paid to Valve. -k -------------------- I see myself as witty, urbane, highly talented, hugely successful with a keen sense of style. Plus of course my own special brand of modesty.
I play a geriatric black ops ninja wizard with laser eyes, and a pink mohawked pixie driving a human suit. I optimize ...differently. |
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May 10 2012, 02:44 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,172 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
Ugh I wish I would have read this thread sooner I'm having tons of problems trying to install Battlefield 3, damn them and their moneygrubbing paranoia. I'm seriously considering torrenting a game I bought because it would be easier to install.
-------------------- REJOICE! For bad things are about to happen.
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May 10 2012, 05:08 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,811 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Angelone @ May 9 2012, 09:44 PM) Ugh I wish I would have read this thread sooner I'm having tons of problems trying to install Battlefield 3, damn them and their moneygrubbing paranoia. I'm seriously considering torrenting a game I bought because it would be easier to install. This is why I'm happy to see DRM free copies of games going out on the Kickstarted games.
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May 11 2012, 09:25 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,071 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ May 9 2012, 10:08 PM) This is why I'm happy to see DRM free copies of games going out on the Kickstarted games. Or just DRM free games in general. Thanks, GOG! -------------------- You are kicking the baby jesus with hitler. you don't want to kick the baby jesus with hitler, do you? - mfb
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May 13 2012, 02:33 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,172 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
EA has terrible customer service!
-------------------- REJOICE! For bad things are about to happen.
Elder #7 of the Drop Bear Conspiracy. la vida no vale nada |
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May 13 2012, 03:00 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 13,811 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Angelone @ May 12 2012, 09:33 PM) EA has terrible customer service! Amongst many other terrible things.It beat out BANK OF AMERICA!!! |
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