Shadowrun Space, What's happening in the shadows of the void? |
Shadowrun Space, What's happening in the shadows of the void? |
Jul 14 2012, 03:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
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Shadowrun Space Sociology Shadowrun Space Technology V1 Related Timeline and Reference Collections Kingdom of Hawai'i Compilation Tir Tairngire Compilation Page References If you have a comment that touches on in-game details please provide page references so I can double-check. I'm only interested in canon details in this thread, and using page references helps to filter out personal campaign specifics or misremembered bits. Canon Sources The most current coverage of space in Shadowrun, 4th Edition is Hazard Pay (In-Game: pp. 113-143; Game Mechanics: pp. 159-161) and War! for orbital artillery. For Third Edition, see Target: Wastelands (In-Game: pp. 66-84; Game Mechanics: pp. 124-129). Besides the primary sources listed above, there are the occasional references to orbital goings-on related to Zurich-Orbital (e.g. Corporate Guide, pp. 18-20) or notes that Corporation X has a small facility they use for Y. Usually these references just cause more problems than explain anything. For example, Corporate Guide claims they can HIDE the Z-O facility from ground observation as in-universe fact. Also see Space Exploration and Exploitation in Augmentation, p. 102. For some insight into why Dunkelzahn chose wheat as the subject of his prize see this NASA page. Note About Hazard Pay: Yes, it contradicts a ton of previous material and isn't internally consistent. Nothing I can do about it. Space Operations Charter (SOC) The Space Operations Charter is responsible for standardizing restrictions on carrying personal weapons into space, as well as other operational requirements and standards. This is listed as being in effect since 2068 (Hazard Pay, p. 123) but contradicts itself later as being ratified in 2071 (Hazard Pay, p. 127). Presumably was effectively 'law' in the interim. Notes on the Confusing Dates for the Space Operations Charter
Propulsion Useful General Reference: Delta-v Budget The Long-Distance Space Travel table in Hazard Pay (p. 161) implies better propulsion technology and expanded service routes since Target: Wastelands (p. 129); there are no direct Earth-Luna trips during the Wastelands time period, for example (p. 128). However, there is no information given on propulsion technologies that are in use (aside from solar sails and ion drives), so presumably it's still chemical rockets for the most part. The Vigilance has fuel tanks and an engine room, which would imply liquid fuel rockets. Spacecraft stats in Hazard Pay for the Vigilance space cutter (Hazard Pay, p. 166) makes little sense in terms of Speed and Acceleration. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret them. That is, it can accelerate at 33 G's(!) but as listed appears to have a total delta-v of 2.6 km/s. It doesn't appear able to carry out its stated mission, but the acceleration is rather extraordinary. Weapons Useful General Reference: Atomic Rocket. Space weaponry in Shadowrun is limited by a series of treaties (War!, p. 159) including SALT IV, SALT V, and the Nairobi Accords prohibiting nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons in space. Note that the Shadowrun SALT treaties don't appear to have a connection to the real-world Strategic Arms Limitation Talks except in a general sense of "arms control agreements".
Aesir Satellite System
General Timeline 1981: Space Shuttle Columbia makes first flight. Contradicted by Hazard Pay, p. 120 which states 1980. Early divergence point confirmed. 2029: Crash Virus. Ninety-one percent of all satellites destroyed because of power failures, collisions with other orbital objects, or loss of orbital integrity. (Hazard Pay, p. 120) 2061: Orbital assets almost at their pre-Crash levels. (Hazard Pay, p. 121) 2063: Yamatesu vessel Tereshkova arrives at Mars for manned mission. arrives September leaves January(?) 2064 and arrives back at Earth in June 2064. 2064: Crash 2.0. Eighty-nine percent of the communications network and most of the low-Earth orbital facilities are lost. All geosynchronous stations survive. 2070: Space Operations Charter put into action by Corporate Court with backing from the United Nations (Hazard Pay, p. 123 but also see p. 127) 2074: Shadowtalk of space super ore at Fernselt Lunar Station. Comms lost with Gagarin Mars base. Space Rescue Service (SRS) Hazard Pay, pp. 128-131 The new space organization created for Hazard Pay. Seemingly intended to be the main antagonist for shadowrunners. The description as a “brute squad” is repeated multiple times in the text.
Aerospace Corporations Ares
Timeline:
Proteus
Timeline:
Evo (formerly Yamatetsu)
Horizon
NeoNET (formery Novatech)
Saeder-Krupp
Timeline:
Shibata Construction and Engineering – As of 2074 no longer on the Spindle and Mars relays not mentioned.
Shiawase -- Operates solar satellites through its Shiawase Energy subsidiary. (Corporate Guide, p. 169) Aztechnology – Owns and operates The Spindle (LEO) and various small stations. As of 2074 only the Spindle is noted as a major space asset. (Hazard Pay, p. 136) Timeline:
Shadowrun Space Assets Major Earth Projects Corporate Court -- Skyhook Space Elevator Corporate Guide, p. 69, 153) [2072] Hazard Pay, p. 122-123; 133-134 [2074]
Timeline: Note: Hazard Pay contradicts dates from earlier sources.
Hazard Pay, p. 122, 133-134
-- Kilimanjaro Mass Driver (Corporate Guide, p. 83) [set in 2072]
Hazard Pay, p. 121, 133 [set in 2074]
Timeline Hazard Pay, p. 133
Low Earth Orbit (LEO) As of 2074 there are approximately sixty-five LEO stations and facilities in orbit (Hazard Pay, p. 123). Independents -- Almost 50 manned stations (drastic reduction after Crash 2.0 in 2064). (Wastelands, p. 74) [2062]
Ares -- Apollo Station (Wastelands, p. 75) [2062] (Hazard Pay, p. 134) [2074]
Timeline:
-- Nimbus Orbital Shipyards (Hazard Pay, p. 135-136) [2074]
Horizon -- Eagle-Eye II Deep Space Observation Platform (Hazard Pay, pp. 134-135) [2074]
NeoNET -- Camelot Research Platform
Timeline
Saeder-Krupp -- Himmelsschmiede Orbital Factory ("Sky Forge") (Wastelands, pp. 76-77) [2062]
(Hazard Pay, p. 135) [2074]
Starfield Botanical Engineering -- Dyson 3 Research Station (Hazard Pay, p. 134) [2072]
Evo -- Shibanokuji Freefall Resort (Wastelands, p. 77) [2062]
(Corporate Guide, pp. 83-84) [2072]
Hazard Pay Timeline
-- Industry II (Corporate Guide, p. 82) [2072]
-- Smaller Stations No updates in Hazard Pay. (Wastelands, p. 77) [2062]
Aztechnology (Wastelands, pp. 77-78) [2062] -- The Spindle
Hazard Pay (p. 121, 136)
Timeline
-- Tlaloc Research Station
Corporate Court -- Zurich Orbital (Corporate Shadowfiles, pp. 87-96) [2054]
(Wastelands, p. 78) [2062]
(Corporate Download, pp. 18-20) [2061]
(Corporate Guide, pp. 27-28) [2072]
Hazard Pay (p. 120, pp. 136 - 137)
Hazard Pay Alternate timeline!
Geosynchronous Earth Orbit (GEO) -- As of 2074 there are only four manned stations in GEO, but two more are planned within the next ten years. (Hazard Pay, p. 124). -- Somehow Crash 2.0 miraculously caused the GEO satellites to start crashing into each other (Hazard Pay, p. 138). Only one device was lost despite being a “demolition derby.” Built tough! (I assume the text meant to say one station was lost – probably Obelisk) Independents -- Large numbers of communications, weather, and surveillance satellites. (Wastelands, pp. 78-79) [2062]
--Echo Station (Wastelands, pp. 79-80) [2062]
Hazard Pay (p. 120) [2074]
[/list] Ares -- Maintains UCAS spy satellites (p. 81). -- Icarus Station (Wastelands, p. 79) [2062]
Hazard Pay (p. 138)
Hisato-Turner Broadcasting Corporation -- The Obelisk As of 2074 the station is destroyed. (Wastelands, p. 80) [2062]
Hazard Pay, p. 138 [2074]
LaGrange Points (L1 - L4) L1: Proteus -- Treffpunkt Raumhafen The trollface of Shadowrun space canon. (Spelled Treffpunk Raumhalfen in Hazard Pay) (Wastelands, p. 81) [2062]
Hazard Pay (p. 139)
L2: NeoNET -- Darkside Junction (Wastelands, pp. 81) [2062]
Hazard Pay (p. 139)
L3: Monsters -- Nerva (Wastelands, pp. 82) [2062]
Hazard Pay (p. 120, 139)
L4: Ares -- Daedalus (Wastelands, pp. 82) [2062]
(Corporate Guide, p. 49) [2072]
(Hazard Pay, p. 140) [2074]
L5: Independents -- Angel Station ("Junkyard")
Hazard Pay (p. 120, 140)
The Moon -- First lunar settlement by Saeder-Krupp at end of the 2050s. Hazard Pay establishes that the Saeder-Krupp claim is 2050 at Fernselt Station. Some books have Ares as first in 2055. -- Second settlement by Ares in 2055. -- Third settlement begun by Novatech (two-thirds complete by 2062, Wastelands, p. 82) Ares -- Artemis Lunar Arcology Spelled Archology in Hazard Pay. (Wastelands, pp. 82-83) [2062]
Hazard Pay, pp. 140-141[2074]
Saeder-Krupp -- Fernselt Lunar Station (Wastelands, pp. 83-84) [2062]
Hazard Pay, p. 141 [2074]
NeoNET -- Olympia Lunar Base (Wastelands, p. 84) [2062]
Hazard Pay, p. 141 [2074]
Mars -- NASA Project Cydonia in 2011 (8 astronauts to Mars, 3 survived and never reached the target) (Wastelands, p. 84). -- Yamatetsu announced manned mission to reach Mars by mid-2063 (Wastelands, p. 84). -- Proteus plans to establish a Mars station between 2072-2075 (Shockwaves, p. 14). -- Evo and Proteus start project to green Mars (no details) (Augmentation, p. 59). Shadows of Asia [2064]
Ares -- Charon Space Station (Corporate Guide, p. 58) [2072]
(Hazard Pay, p. 141)
Evo -- Gagarin Mars Colony (Corporate Guide, p. 84) [2072]
Hazard Pay, pp. 142-143 [2074] – Contact lost with the base mid-2074.
Saeder-Krupp -- Probes (Corporate Guide, p. 160) [2072]
Deep Space Target: Wastelands, p. 84 [2062] -- Various unmanned space probes to Pluto, Mercury, and the Oort Cloud. -- Ares planned to send manned mission to Europa in 2064. -- Saeder-Krupp planned on sending mining survey to the asteroid belt. Emergence, p. 119 [2070] -- AI named Rigel hijacks the Sternensammler unmanned asteroid retriever and puts it on a course to Alpha Centauri. Probably a dropped/forgotten plot thread. Hazard Pay, p. 140 [2074] -- Crash 2.0 canned most of these projects. -- Ares Europa mission now a probe mission. Ares -- Helios (Wastelands, p. 84) [2062]
(Corporate Guide, p. 58) [2072]
(Hazard Pay, pp. 141-142) [2074]
Shibata -- Comm Satellites (Corporate Guide, p. 84) [2072]
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Jul 14 2012, 12:13 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Not sure if it's important or not, but there are a few references to Daedalus station on page 111 of Street Magic.
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Jul 14 2012, 01:22 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
THat was one impressive posting o.o
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Jul 14 2012, 03:28 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Yeah, fairly encyclopedic.
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Jul 14 2012, 05:26 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-July 11 From: NE Pennsylvania Member No.: 34,232 |
Ok. Where can I find this "Shockwave" book that is referenced? I've never heard of it.
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Jul 14 2012, 05:30 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,643 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
German release, _awesome_ campaign book, supposed to play shortly before the system shutdown.
Also: This is a lot to read. Thanks for making the effort, Tzeentch |
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Jul 14 2012, 09:02 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Fanpro published a summary of the German Shockwellen campaign in English (and French, since Skarn Ka spoke both) as a free PDF, under the title Shockwaves. Though a lot of people ignore its existence, it's legally part of the canon.
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Jul 14 2012, 09:13 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
Hey Tzee, great timeline!
Just wanted to point out though that in your general timeline (the first one) you note that Crash 2.0 was 2062, not 2064. |
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Jul 14 2012, 09:41 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
Fanpro published a summary of the German Shockwellen campaign in English (and French, since Skarn Ka spoke both) as a free PDF, under the title Shockwaves. Though a lot of people ignore its existence, it's legally part of the canon. I had largely forgotten of its existence since it didn't have a lot of impact on what I do. James had pointed it out to me, I'd downloaded it...and then never really done much with it. Thanks for the reminder. |
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Jul 14 2012, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
-- Oops fixed the date! I think there is a (now contradicted) space reference in Shadows of Asia that was noted in the main Hazard Pay release thread regarding the Evo Mars mission (in that timeline not all of the cosmonauts died it appears). The later SOTA books may also have something. Some other references have been brought up before (see V1 thread) and a few were not included because they were too trivial or just repeated old info.
-- At some point I'll rewrite this a bit so that it flows better (working on a netbook doesn't make that easy). I'll also work on updating my canon compilations for Tir Tairngire and Hawai'i. I would do one for Salish-Shidhe but no plotlines have gone anywhere in that place since I wrote them up for SONA. Kingdom of Hawai'i Compilation: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=33822 Tir Tairngire Compilation: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=31504 |
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Jul 14 2012, 10:08 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
The references you miss on Yamatetsu mission to Mars are in State of the Art: 2064, page 161, and Shadows of Asia, page 139.
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Jul 15 2012, 02:24 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
I can't remember where the reference comes from, but there was a manned mission to Mars sometime before the US became the UCAS and it returned in Year of the Comet. I want to say that Ancient mentioned it at some point.
Also, thank you for the other timelines. I can see if I an give your space timeline a once over and throw it all together if you wanted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jul 15 2012, 06:02 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
Ahh! Thank you! Handy research all in one area, and a reminder that I need to make an adjustment in a PDF I'm working on.
Danke! |
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Jul 15 2012, 12:05 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Mars -- NASA Project Cydonia in 2011 (8 astronauts to Mars, 3 survived and never reached the target) (Wastelands, p. 84). -- Yamatetsu announced manned mission to reach Mars by mid-2063 (Wastelands, p. 84) -- Proteus plans to establish a Mars station between 2072-2075 (Shockwaves, p. 14). - A lot of information on the first secret Mars landing is in Missions - Official first Mars landing by Evo is described in SOA - The BBB describes Evo as the first corp with holdings on another planet. Augmentation also has a short bit of shadowtalk about Evo greening Mars. - Himmelsschmiede, no l at the end (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 15 2012, 12:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 |
Another quick question Tzee, having read your Tir post - you were a writer for SoNA?
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Jul 15 2012, 04:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
Thanks for the references guys, looks like Missions is my next go-to. I suspect the Mars stuff basically got retconned though, from what you've said so far.
I wrote the Tir Tairngire and Salish-Shidhe chapters of SONA. I wrote the arctic section of Wastelands |
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Jul 15 2012, 10:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 19-December 06 Member No.: 10,405 |
DEEP SPACE
What's up with Rigel or the Sternensammler unmanned asteroid retriever heads toward distant Alpha Centauri? (see Rigel Group, Emergence p. 119) |
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Jun 26 2013, 10:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
Some updates and editing. Page references for anything missing are appreciated (I don't have Missions I'm afraid).
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Jul 6 2023, 05:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Los Coronados | San Ysidro CA Member No.: 106 |
After all this time, a list was pointed out to me by Wak. This will help on Holostreets.
Good to see your work holds Matt. |
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Jul 8 2023, 02:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 217 Joined: 13-February 06 From: Teesprawl (originally); CAS (now) Member No.: 8,264 |
What a fantastic resource! That's being printed to PDF right now!
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