 Is 4th edition worth it for my game group? |
 Aug 16 2012, 02:47 AM
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Hello everyone.
I recently setted up a playing group for Shadowrun. We started playing with 2nd edition, without any supplement manual (as unfortunately in my country, they discontinued printing shadowrun 2nd edition after the core book). After some sessions, I decided to upgrade to 3d edition (having instead all the supplements for it). I'm still learning how to properly make 3d edition rules work, and as I've read there's even a 4th edition core book with the 2050/2060 setting I was thinking: Is it worth to upgrade to 4th edition? I am myself a big fan of the original Shadowrun game system concerning combat, magic and creatures. I cannot say the same about vehicle combat and the matrix. So I'm looking for advices before buying the 4th edition manuals. |
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Noll Is 4th edition worth it for my game group? Aug 16 2012, 02:47 AM
Raiden well... unfortunatly i never got into the SR 2 and... Aug 16 2012, 03:16 AM Udoshi I'd say no, its not worth it.
SR4 is kind of ... Aug 16 2012, 03:48 AM
Shortstraw My picture of 4th is a little rosier than Udoshi... Aug 16 2012, 04:18 AM Xenefungus QUOTE (Udoshi @ Aug 16 2012, 05:48 AM) I... Aug 16 2012, 10:19 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Udoshi @ Aug 15 2012, 11:48 PM) In... Aug 16 2012, 11:29 AM Thanee QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2012, 01:29 PM... Aug 16 2012, 11:51 AM Medicineman I'd say Yes, its definitely worth it.
SR3 is... Aug 16 2012, 07:30 AM Thanee Of course, it depends a lot on what you and your g... Aug 16 2012, 08:03 AM Chimera I find Shadowrun 4th Edition to be very fun, both ... Aug 16 2012, 11:51 AM Medicineman You didn't actually read this when you were sw... Aug 16 2012, 11:51 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Medicineman @ Aug 16 2012, 07:51 A... Aug 16 2012, 12:22 PM Thanee QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2012, 02:22 PM... Aug 16 2012, 12:34 PM Xenefungus QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2012, 02:22 PM... Aug 16 2012, 03:30 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Aug 16 2012, 11:30 AM... Aug 16 2012, 03:41 PM Xenefungus WTF, someone thinking variable TNs are a good thin... Aug 16 2012, 12:00 PM Shortstraw First who likes variable TN's? Second ask me w... Aug 16 2012, 12:20 PM Noll Thanks everyone for the answers.
I may say that i... Aug 16 2012, 12:31 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Noll @ Aug 16 2012, 07:31 AM) (6--... Aug 16 2012, 12:41 PM Thanee QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2012, 02:41 PM... Aug 16 2012, 01:28 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 16 2012, 09:28 AM) Ab... Aug 16 2012, 03:01 PM Thanee QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 16 2012, 05:01 PM... Aug 16 2012, 03:49 PM freudqo QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 16 2012, 04:49 PM) Wh... Aug 16 2012, 04:04 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 16 2012, 11:49 AM) Wh... Aug 16 2012, 04:16 PM bannockburn Well, the vehicle rules in SR4 are a mess as well.... Aug 16 2012, 12:42 PM Warlordtheft QUOTE (bannockburn @ Aug 16 2012, 08:42 A... Aug 16 2012, 02:02 PM Bigity Variable TNs are dumb? Uh, no. They still exist ... Aug 16 2012, 01:10 PM sk8bcn I haven't yet played 4th edition (even if the ... Aug 16 2012, 01:13 PM freudqo QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Aug 16 2012, 02:13 PM) To... Aug 16 2012, 01:23 PM Bigity As long as the system is built around those probab... Aug 16 2012, 01:16 PM Whipstitch QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 16 2012, 07:16 AM) As... Aug 16 2012, 07:49 PM freudqo The core mechanics changes between 3rd and 4th act... Aug 16 2012, 01:17 PM Speed Wraith There are some extreme feelings on this issue, heh... Aug 16 2012, 01:33 PM freudqo QUOTE That is an extreme case of min-maxing then. ... Aug 16 2012, 01:46 PM almost normal QUOTE (freudqo @ Aug 16 2012, 08:46 AM) E... Aug 16 2012, 04:26 PM freudqo QUOTE (almost normal @ Aug 16 2012, 05:26... Aug 16 2012, 04:49 PM Smed All editions of SR have their issues. SR4 solved s... Aug 16 2012, 04:15 PM EKBT81 QUOTE (Smed @ Aug 16 2012, 06:15 PM) All ... Aug 16 2012, 05:45 PM Thanos007 So the basic point of contention is fixed versus f... Aug 16 2012, 11:04 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Thanos007 @ Aug 16 2012, 07:04 PM)... Aug 17 2012, 12:30 AM bannockburn Depends on your playstyle, IMO, Thanos.
Someone ea... Aug 16 2012, 11:09 PM Thanos007 So if no one min/maxs it shouldn't be a proble... Aug 16 2012, 11:17 PM Whipstitch Min-maxing highlights things in both cases but ult... Aug 17 2012, 12:14 AM freudqo QUOTE (Whipstitch @ Aug 17 2012, 01:14 AM... Aug 17 2012, 09:09 AM bannockburn Heh.
Of course you can run into problems. It... Aug 16 2012, 11:19 PM darthmord I started playing Shadowrun back in First Edition.... Aug 17 2012, 12:39 AM ikarinokami SR4A is fun. it's very flexible however it is ... Aug 17 2012, 04:10 AM Xenefungus To my limited knowledge, the infamous D&D 4.0 ... Aug 17 2012, 08:35 AM Thanee QUOTE (Xenefungus @ Aug 17 2012, 10:35 AM... Aug 17 2012, 11:30 AM ikarinokami QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 17 2012, 06:30 AM) Wh... Aug 17 2012, 12:58 PM Thanee QUOTE (ikarinokami @ Aug 17 2012, 02:58 P... Aug 17 2012, 01:30 PM Xenefungus QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 17 2012, 01:30 PM) Wh... Aug 17 2012, 11:25 PM Thanee The biggest problem I always had with the TN modif... Aug 17 2012, 10:43 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 17 2012, 05:43 AM) On... Aug 17 2012, 11:32 AM Thanee QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 17 2012, 01:32 PM... Aug 17 2012, 01:28 PM freudqo QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 17 2012, 02:28 PM) An... Aug 17 2012, 02:09 PM Thanee QUOTE (freudqo @ Aug 17 2012, 04:09 PM) T... Aug 18 2012, 10:52 PM freudqo QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 18 2012, 11:52 PM) Wh... Aug 19 2012, 10:05 AM freudqo QUOTE (Thanee @ Aug 17 2012, 11:43 AM) Th... Aug 17 2012, 12:21 PM Shinobi Killfist I am currently running 4e and 2e-3e was too long a... Aug 18 2012, 09:25 PM Krishach The system has been plumbed fairly in depth here, ... Aug 19 2012, 12:15 AM Epicedion 1) SR4 isn't cyberpunk, it's transhumanist... Aug 19 2012, 06:59 AM EKBT81 QUOTE (Epicedion @ Aug 19 2012, 08:59 AM)... Aug 19 2012, 07:18 AM binarywraith QUOTE (Epicedion @ Aug 19 2012, 01:59 AM)... Aug 19 2012, 11:36 AM ShadowDragon8685 I like SR4. I never got to play SR3, unless you co... Aug 22 2012, 04:07 PM Blackbird71 QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 22 2012, 08... Aug 22 2012, 06:10 PM freudqo QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Aug 22 2012, 05... Aug 23 2012, 08:38 AM Thanos007 Same as it ever was
After reading this thread and... Aug 19 2012, 12:35 PM shinyjam QUOTE (Thanos007 @ Aug 19 2012, 12:35 PM)... Aug 19 2012, 03:11 PM KnightAries QUOTE (Thanos007 @ Aug 19 2012, 05:35 AM)... Aug 19 2012, 06:08 PM Noll If I where to buy an hard copy of the core book, w... Aug 19 2012, 07:23 PM KnightAries QUOTE (Noll @ Aug 19 2012, 12:23 PM) If I... Aug 19 2012, 07:31 PM Bigity I'd almost skip recommending Unwired completel... Aug 19 2012, 08:52 PM KnightAries QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 19 2012, 01:52 PM) I... Aug 19 2012, 09:57 PM Halinn QUOTE (Bigity @ Aug 19 2012, 10:52 PM) I... Aug 19 2012, 10:59 PM Udoshi QUOTE (Halinn @ Aug 19 2012, 03:59 PM) It... Aug 19 2012, 11:05 PM nezumi To answer the original question:
SR3 is almost id... Aug 21 2012, 01:56 AM EKBT81 QUOTE (nezumi @ Aug 21 2012, 03:56 AM) Re... Aug 21 2012, 06:32 AM Medicineman The Fluff Change from SR2---> SR3 regarding A... Aug 21 2012, 06:57 AM sk8bcn QUOTE (freudqo @ Aug 16 2012, 03:23 PM) N... Aug 22 2012, 03:04 PM freudqo QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Aug 22 2012, 04:04 PM) A ... Aug 22 2012, 03:29 PM sk8bcn QUOTE (freudqo @ Aug 22 2012, 05:29 PM) O... Aug 23 2012, 03:19 PM freudqo QUOTE (sk8bcn @ Aug 23 2012, 04:19 PM) Sa... Aug 23 2012, 03:52 PM ShadowDragon8685 QUOTE 7) In SR4, being able to hack everything wil... Aug 22 2012, 04:07 PM AStarshipforAnts Since each dumpshocker's individual tastes are... Aug 22 2012, 04:36 PM cndblank I say yes.
3rd was dying under all the different a... Aug 22 2012, 04:53 PM Fortinbras In terms of flavor, Shadowrun 1e and 2e are ... Aug 22 2012, 09:45 PM The Jopp There are many things that are good with SR4 - I e... Aug 23 2012, 11:34 AM  |
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