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[_Pax._]

It seems unlikely that even a very ice-cream enthused troll could eat an entire truck's worth of ice cream on the way back to the group squat. Even if he was very excited about now owning an ice cream truck.

.... if he's directionally illiterate like my lady-love? Three days and forty gallons of Fudge Ripple later, he might have found his way back into the right neighborhood ...

[CanRay]

It seems unlikely that even a very ice-cream enthused troll could eat an entire truck's worth of ice cream on the way back to the group squat. Even if he was very excited about now owning an ice cream truck.

"Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Mungo have ice cream headache!!!"

[ShadowDragon8685]

.... if he's directionally illiterate like my lady-love? Three days and forty gallons of Fudge Ripple later, he might have found his way back into the right neighborhood ...

Even a crap vehicle with a Pilot rating of 1 should be able to unfailingly get you in the right neighborhood... Assuming he remembered to turn it on.

"Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Mungo have ice cream headache!!!"

Poor Mungo. I know how bad that feels.

[_Pax._]

Even a crap vehicle with a Pilot rating of 1 should be able to unfailingly get you in the right neighborhood... Assuming he remembered to turn it on.

Yeah, about that last bit ... ^_^

[Blastula]

This is not a bad thing. This is an Opportunity.

An ice-cream truck is likely to be a large, bulky vehicle, probably a GMC Bulldog step-van. Sure, it'll likely have some of its mod slots taken up by Special Equipment (Friggin' ice cream truck!) but not all of them. It should be ubiquitous, able to travel into nice neighborhoods completely devoid of suspicion in daylight hours, and you might actually make some nuyen selling ice cream out of it while you're doing your legwork or whatever.

There's cinematic precedence for that to work. In the movie Friday, the drug dealer with a perm worked out of an ice cream truck. I think his name was Big Worm or something like that.

[ShadowDragon8685]

What kind of a sick fragger would deal drugs to kids?

Even Runners have standards.

[_Pax._]

What kind of a sick fragger would deal drugs to kids?

Even Runners have standards.

Not all of them, no.

[CanRay]

What kind of a sick fragger would deal drugs to kids?

Even Runners have standards.

Not all of them, no.

I'm pretty sure that even Clockwork and Kane would pause at the idea of that.

...

I said PAUSE, if the money was good enough... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[_Pax._]

Yeah, see ... for some runners, "I have standards" means "you need to offer me more money before I'll say yes". ;D

[ShadowDragon8685]

Not all of them, no.

I'm pretty sure that even Clockwork and Kane would pause at the idea of that.

...

I said PAUSE, if the money was good enough... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yeah, but Clockwork, Kane, and their ilk are murderous, remorseless psychopaths who exist, in my opinion, primarily so even teams who have done wetwork in the name of corporate profit can still righteously put the boots to someone and know that they have done a good thing.

[CanRay]

Yeah, but Clockwork, Kane, and their ilk are murderous, remorseless psychopaths who exist, in my opinion, primarily so even teams who have done wetwork in the name of corporate profit can still righteously put the boots to someone and know that they have done a good thing.

Sometimes shooting people in the face for money is the good thing to do.

[bannockburn]

What kind of a sick fragger would deal drugs to kids?

Even Runners have standards.

That one guy with all the spiders. Until Michael Jackson fought him by turning into a car, a giant robot and finally, a spaceship.

Joke aside though: A LOT of people do this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[ShadowDragon8685]

Sometimes shooting people in the face for money is the good thing to do.

Exactly! That's why Kane and Clockwork exist! So shooting them right in the god-damn face for money can still be a good thing in the eyes of the world.

Joke aside though: A LOT of people do this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Sadly. But then, Runners can always put the boots to those guys, get away with it, and have profited, especially if they stole those guy's stashes and wholesaled them to someone who's only going to sell them to adults.

[CanRay]

But then, Runners can always put the boots to those guys, get away with it, and have profited, especially if they stole those guy's stashes and wholesaled them to someone who's only going to sell them to adults.

Troll and Dwarf boots to people usually tend to be a leading cause of death for idiots who piss off Shadowrunners with Morals, second only to Ork boots. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[ShadowDragon8685]

Troll and Dwarf boots to people usually tend to be a leading cause of death for idiots who piss off Shadowrunners with Morals, second only to Ork boots. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Hey, don't forget high-velocity lead poisoning from the elven gunbunnies, or a sudden massive case of brain implosion when the group hacker catches you online in VR and starts swinging the Black Hammer at you.

[KnightAries]

It seems unlikely that even a very ice-cream enthused troll could eat an entire truck's worth of ice cream on the way back to the group squat. Even if he was very excited about now owning an ice cream truck.

Watch blazing saddles BEFORE Mongo was a Troll... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Sid Nitzerglobin]

There's cinematic precedence for that to work. In the movie Friday, the drug dealer with a perm worked out of an ice cream truck. I think his name was Big Worm or something like that.

Playing w/ my money is like playing w/ my emotions...

[CanRay]

Actually, I'm reminded of a website that had "The Good Humor Ork" as a contact. He sold ice cream to kids, and munitions and other essential gear to Shadowrunners (who also occasionally bought ice cream.).

[ShadowDragon8685]

Actually, I'm reminded of a website that had "The Good Humor Ork" as a contact. He sold ice cream to kids, and munitions and other essential gear to Shadowrunners (who also occasionally bought ice cream.).

An honest, upright citizen! Good man.


Actually, the more I think about it, he'd make a really, really cool Fixer. Not even hardcore gangs would dare fuck with him when he drives his truck through the Barrens, for fear of, at worst, killing him, then several angry groups of Runners and other gangs team up to murder them to the last man in revenge. He'd only have to really worry about the genuine, batshit crazies, which means you'd better get whichever special armor mod makes you proofed against fire, for when those damn Halloweeners show up.

Heck, if you have a buddy (or a good autopilot,) you could service go-gangers on the move! Can't you just see that now; big old ice cream truck motoring down the freeway, when a pack of Ancients (well, maybe not if he's the Good Humor Ork, that'd be Spikes... His partner, then, the Mr. Hagenelf?) pulls up behind the truck... And start queueing to pull up to the window.

Especially hilarious when the biggest, baddest go-ganger in the pack drops back to the end of the line, queues up again, and returns the ammunition he was given, saying "Sorry, I meant I literally wanted an ice-cream bar."

[Seriously Mike]

Actually, I'm reminded of a website that had "The Good Humor Ork" as a contact. He sold ice cream to kids, and munitions and other essential gear to Shadowrunners (who also occasionally bought ice cream.).

I am so totally stealing that.

[Blastula]

Actually, I'm reminded of a website that had "The Good Humor Ork" as a contact. He sold ice cream to kids, and munitions and other essential gear to Shadowrunners (who also occasionally bought ice cream.).

And this is what his truck looks like. Aww yeah

[Emperor Tippy]

I will never take Johnson provided gear. It's way too risky for both the Runner and the Johnson. Nuyen on certified cred sticks drawn from numbered and anonymous accounts and deposited in numbered and anonymous accounts.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I will never take Johnson provided gear. It's way too risky for both the Runner and the Johnson. Nuyen on certified cred sticks drawn from numbered and anonymous accounts and deposited in numbered and anonymous accounts.

Heh... Gear from the Johnson, for me, is always pretty iffy. Not a big fan of it, most of the time. Sometimes, though, there are reasons to take it. Most of those are highly situational. *shrug*

[Blastula]

At worst being paid in product gets you iffy gear that's got more RFID tags in it than 3D printing feedstock. At best, it's solid gear that's probably older and, most likely, second hand.

Truthfully, in 20 years of GM'ing, I don't ever remember any of my players asking to be paid in product and I'm pretty sure that I've never offered it as a reward. I kinda like the idea, though.

[Iduno]

I was doing some thinking about this, from the point of view of the Johnson. The Johnson understands supply and demand well enough to know that you always want as many runners out there who can do the job as possible, because you can get away with paying less to the runners and skim more for yourself. That means you don't want runners having the nuyen to retire, and you want them to stay hungry for the next score. So the Evo "Temp Hiring Manager" trades several troll-sized and customized cyberlimbs to a guy he knows who hires the occasional freelancer for MCT in exchange for a crate of factory-fresh Ares Alphas that are strangely missing any RFID tags or serial numbers and some information on the Horizon subsidiary that's trying to beat his division to market with the new product. Then both have something to pay the runners in that has more value for using than for selling, and they'll have to keep coming back so they can keep up with their bills. And if the runners try to track him in what they were paid, they'll come up with no way to find out where the guns came from.