Borderlands 2, Why you (no)mad, bro? Options

[Halinn]

Except when the answer is really BIGGER [Torgue] EXPLOOOOSIONS!!1!!eleven!!!barbarastreisand!!! [/Torgue]

http://youtu.be/r5Rx_0zxNos?t=20s

[fistandantilus4....]

Getting annoyed on the Big Game Hunt with the level upping savages. I'm stuck at the 50 level cap, and they start jumping up to 53 and Angry Red Death Skulls. Any rumors on when the cap is supposed to be lifted?

[StealthSigma]

So I went back to playing my Zer0 after a good haitus now that most of the DLC is out. I need to rebind my keys. I've been playing too much Mass Effect 3 multiplayer that I screwed with myself. Shift is run in Borderlands and space is jump! Shift brings up my UI in Mass Effect and Space runs. I kept pressing shift in Mass Effect 3 (after playing Borderlands) and asking myself why am I not running and keep bring up my UI. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[Tiralee]

Fisty:

Level cap is hinted at going higher in late Feb / early March - in time for people to grind for the next dlc:)

And I hear your pain, those rampable bastards HURT. So far, the bee on a vehicle takes them down (after you've run them the hell over a few times) but those spores are killer.


-Tir

[StealthSigma]

Fisty:

Level cap is hinted at going higher in late Feb / early March - in time for people to grind for the next dlc:)

And I hear your pain, those rampable bastards HURT. So far, the bee on a vehicle takes them down (after you've run them the hell over a few times) but those spores are killer.


-Tir

Where's your death machine now? ;P

[Tanegar]

I adore Tiny Tina.

[_Pax._]

I adore Tiny Tina.

She needs to be adopted ... by Mr. Torgue. Because of all the kids in the universe, who could better understand his love for EXPLOOOOOSIONS!! than she does?

^_^

Plus, I so wanna hear them arguing, over Echo Net of course, about whether or not pink, hearts, bunnies, and/or flowers, are or are not "macho" ... HA!

[CanRay]

She needs to be adopted ... by Mr. Torgue. Because of all the kids in the universe, who could better understand his love for EXPLOOOOOSIONS!! than she does?

^_^

Plus, I so wanna hear them arguing, over Echo Net of course, about whether or not pink, hearts, bunnies, and/or flowers, are or are not "macho" ... HA!

Just what I've seen of those two, they'd MAKE them macho!

That said, I rented the game, playing with Axton, and I can see why he calls his turret his Girlfriend!!!

[Critias]

Hearing confirmation that Sir Hammerlock's DLC doesn't raise the level cap makes me a sad panda. The gamer in me just cannot handle all these kills and quests and rewards that I'm not getting, because I've maxed out my level. I'll probably hold off on buying it until I can get the next DLC, too, and hopefully get a level or two along the way.

"Grinding for loot" just isn't enough to make me want to keep playing, past a certain point. Maybe it's just because they still tell me the XP bonus I (would be getting to) earn after a quest and stuff, but...yeah, it just kills me. I feel like it's wasted energy, when I see the XP I'm not getting.

[StealthSigma]

Hearing confirmation that Sir Hammerlock's DLC doesn't raise the level cap makes me a sad panda. The gamer in me just cannot handle all these kills and quests and rewards that I'm not getting, because I've maxed out my level. I'll probably hold off on buying it until I can get the next DLC, too, and hopefully get a level or two along the way.

"Grinding for loot" just isn't enough to make me want to keep playing, past a certain point. Maybe it's just because they still tell me the XP bonus I (would be getting to) earn after a quest and stuff, but...yeah, it just kills me. I feel like it's wasted energy, when I see the XP I'm not getting.

I stopped playing after beating the game once so at the moment I'm still only 39 on my highest level. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Anyway. I thorough enjoyed running into the Crystalisks in the first DLC. After having a bitch of a time with them in my first playthrough running up and thwaking them three times to kill them is satisfying. Extremely satisfying. It's hilarious how ineffective they are against a meleeing foe.

[_Pax._]

Well, with my desktop being kaput, I haven't played for weeks and weeks. And can't play the new DLC for ... probably a month. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[CanRay]

Barely an hour into the game, and I already want to punch Jack in the face... With many, many bullets.

Also, Vladof had my respect before, it's only increased now! Jakobs, OTOH, still has my heart.

I am enjoying the Bandit weapons, however...

[_Pax._]

Yeah, the weapon variation - and manufacturor-specific "always there" traits - really is an improvement.

Fun fact: all, yes ALL, Torgue guns are essentially Gyrojet weapons with HE payloads.

[Tiralee]

StealthSig - the deathtrap hasn't much in the way of "smarts" (Axton's turret is way faster at finding and addressing threats, even over other players, gunzerkers especially...the tunnel-vision you get when gunzerking really makes you focus on nearby threats, and not the explosive-spewing demon spore above you) and it's ranged attacks (deathball included) do jack diddly against some of those ramped-up enemies.

Melee works, but that means the siren's shooting the robot to heal it, not us.

Vladof! You want a big gun that shoots a lot of bullets? Vladof makes it! - best assault rifles and quickfire snipers. Their pistols are great as smgs as well:)
Jackobs: Best snipers in game, their revolvers aren't bad either. Shotguns and assault rifles are laughable. (their reload speed/ROF are shocking)
Teledore! Cheap shit a certainty, their ineffectual damage output is more than compensated for the instant reload and hilarious "exploding gun to the face" ability. Shotguns and SMGs are decent (reload speed, big clips, bigger bang) avoid their pistols.
Bandit: More BLarraggahhagah! Shotguns, SMGs and Assault rifles, maybe a pistol if you can stand the 5-second reload. Smgs for the maxi-magazine loads (115 rounds! Can I have such a thing?!) rifles for the gunzerkers and mechanomancers because nothing says bullet spray with ricochet:)
Mailwan: For true elegance in death. Stick to the SMGs - good, accurate, fast-firing and dependable dps. Would dearly love an explosive SMG.
TORGUE: EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXPLOSIONS. Gyrojet ammo so it's slow, splashy and hard-hitting. Assault rifles tend to use more than one round so best left to Gunzerkers, but the Torgue shotguns and pistols are a great addition to any class. AND THERE'S NOTHING CLASSIER THAN TREATING A LADY RIGHT.
Hyperion: True <insert marketing garble here> . Tend to be flashy but decent. Their ability to be more accurate the more you fire rewards large magazines and high ROF. Their shotguns are surprisingly fast reloaders and do decent damage (Nowhere near the ammo-hungry Bandit and Torgue shotguns though). The smallest weapon in their range you should carry would be an smg with at least 30 rounds. Ignore their pistols, yes, even the shiny ones that spike the NPC's as their in accurate as hell and chew through ammo like a fat kid chews through cakes. DAMMIT, NOW I WANT CAKE.
Dahl: Ulgh - apart from the Bull [The Lascaux is a Unique Submachine Gun manufactured by Dahl. Lascaux can be found submerged in a shallow pool in Frostburn Canyon.] and various other uniques (Gwen's head in the dust) I personally avoid them. The burstfire is...tricky and almost unique to each weapon. Multibarrel Assault Dahl assualt rifles can be stupidly damaging, but it's really hard to find one that suits your playstyle without you levelling past it's usefullness. The Bull is an extreme bullet-hose and that is made much worse by a gunzerker dual-wielding them. Basically, treat them like a shotgun. With more ammo.

I didn't mention rocket launchers, mainly as it's up to the user to figure out what to enjoy, same with grenade mods and shield types.

Basically the Torgue rocketlaunchers will do a ton of explosive damage, Maliwan tend to 3 x multilaunchers of good to excellent elemental effect (each round is calculated at it's own % chance of effect, so you've always got a good chance of setting people on fire, etc.) Bandit launchers tend to multi-rockets and Vladof has a chance of not using ammunition when firing - these are best used with experimentation to suit your gameplay. Oh, and they all take forever to reload (apart from the Telidore ones, which are instant, and dangerous to toss away if you're not careful!) with the bandit running dead last in that catagory.

Frankly, you're best finding a playstyle that works, then finding a gun that suits said style. I'm not going to cover uniques as they're all individualistic and some are frankly useless (Flacker - Torgue's explosive shotgun - is the worst offender) but kill a boss over a few times and you might be amazed to see what drops.

And team up - it makes a good game great.

-Tir

[Tanegar]

At the end of the Captain Scarlett campaign (cute, but not as hot as Moxxi) I got a Torgue rocket launcher that does over 5000 damage, when all the others I've found so far do 1500-1600.

[CanRay]

... ... ... Man, did Lilith really let herself go!!!

[StealthSigma]

At the end of the Captain Scarlett campaign (cute, but not as hot as Moxxi) I got a Torgue rocket launcher that does over 5000 damage, when all the others I've found so far do 1500-1600.

5000? That's it? That's so low. What level was the rocket launcher because I have a 30k Lv33 rocket launcher with a 3 rocket magazine....

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StealthSig - the deathtrap hasn't much in the way of "smarts" (Axton's turret is way faster at finding and addressing threats, even over other players, gunzerkers especially...the tunnel-vision you get when gunzerking really makes you focus on nearby threats, and not the explosive-spewing demon spore above you) and it's ranged attacks (deathball included) do jack diddly against some of those ramped-up enemies.

Melee works, but that means the siren's shooting the robot to heal it, not us.

I think you misunderstood my comment. It was a jab at everyone talking about how OP the death machine was at one point or another.

Anyway, I suspect a melee Zer0 would make those guys vastly easier since you have a player deciding on threat value and you have the benefit of Deception. A sniper Zer0 would probably make it much easier as well, but my experience with sniping in BL2 multiplayer has been poor. For the record, I do typically run snipers and I'm usually ridiculous with them. I would probably need to host or join someone who has a connection good for hosting in order to continue playing Zer0 as a sniper.

[taeksosin]

Finished BL. Started BL2. Wasn't blown away by Axton (but haven't even taken down Flynt with him yet), <3 Zer0, and am starting up a Maya just to see how she plays. So far, love the game. Jack is a guy that you love to hate. And I so hope that at some point I get to see Butt Stallion.

[Tanegar]

... ... ... Man, did Lilith really let herself go!!!

...what? She looks almost exactly the same as she did in the first game. Are you talking about Ellie?

5000? That's it? That's so low. What level was the rocket launcher because I have a 30k Lv33 rocket launcher with a 3 rocket magazine....

It's level 20.

[X-Kalibur]

...what? She looks almost exactly the same as she did in the first game. Are you talking about Ellie?


It's level 20.

Maybe he's talking about how she gets a little... hot... at times.

[CanRay]

... ... ... Man, did Lilith really let herself go!!!

...what? She looks almost exactly the same as she did in the first game. Are you talking about Ellie?

There's more than one way to let yourself go than gain weight...

[Tanegar]

Maybe he's talking about how she gets a little... hot... at times.

The Firehawk thing? I have to admit, that was pretty awesome.

[CanRay]

Typical... I just start getting into the game, it starts helping me out through some issues...

And I hit the frustrating level that I JUST CAN'T GET ACROSS.

Well, that's another game for the garbage heap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

[_Pax._]

What level, on what hardware, CanRay?

[CanRay]

What level, on what hardware, CanRay?

W@r D3n holding Roland, on my 360.