 Enhanced Articulation, Worth it or not |
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 Sep 26 2012, 05:33 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665  |
Hey everyone... is Enhanced Articulation worth ANYTHING? I understand it gives +1 die to physical skills using physical attributes, but what about any hand to hand combat? I mean does Hand to hand NOT count as a physical skill using physical attributes? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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Sep 26 2012, 05:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Sep 26 2012, 01:33 PM)  Hey everyone... is Enhanced Articulation worth ANYTHING? I understand it gives +1 die to physical skills using physical attributes, but what about any hand to hand combat? I mean does Hand to hand NOT count as a physical skill using physical attributes? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Physical skill is major category of skills. Hand to hand, or unarmed combat, is a skill under the combat skill category and does not get the benefit. |
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Sep 26 2012, 05:44 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Combat SKill apllicability aside (as in not available for such), I find that Enhanced Articulation is not a bad system for some characters. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 26 2012, 05:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 14-July 09 Member No.: 17,394 |
Climbing, Infiltration, Running, Swimming, Escape Artist, just a few off the top of my head. Very useful 'ware.
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Sep 26 2012, 06:01 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
If those are skills you use, it's a good return for the essence and nuyen, I'd say.
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Sep 26 2012, 06:10 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (TeknoDragon @ Sep 26 2012, 01:56 PM) Climbing, Infiltration, Running, Swimming, Escape Artist, just a few off the top of my head. Very useful 'ware. Gymnastics, Palming, Parachuting, Diving |
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Sep 26 2012, 06:35 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 26 2012, 09:10 PM) Gymnastics, Palming, Parachuting, Diving And Riding too i would think, even if the rest of the Animal Husbandry skill group logically go under Technical skills. And yes i do have a character that has that skill. |
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Sep 26 2012, 07:05 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Running, jumping, climbing trees...putting on make-up while you're up there...
More seriously, the reason Enhanced Articulation seems somewhat "useless" in SR4 might be because of its comparison to SR1-SR3's version...which was flat-out broken. If you've got a piece of cyber or bioware that's only gives a mechanical bonus to skills that every single combat-based mage, shaman, or adept will take a point of magic loss to get - especially when there are spells or powers that will reproduce the effects (unlike stuff like datajacks or SR1-3 smartlinks) - you know there's something a wee bit overpowered. |
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Sep 26 2012, 07:13 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (Abstruse @ Sep 26 2012, 03:05 PM) Running, jumping, climbing trees...putting on make-up while you're up there... Disguise is intuition. |
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Sep 26 2012, 09:15 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 26 2012, 01:13 PM) Disguise is intuition. <Insert picture of Anti-Joke Chicken> |
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Sep 27 2012, 07:27 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Next to the Smartlink II, it's probably the most powerful piece of ware for its price in all of Man & Machine.
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Sep 27 2012, 07:58 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 27 2012, 03:27 PM) Next to the Smartlink II, it's probably the most powerful piece of ware for its price in all of Man & Machine. It's potency is related to how many of the skills it affects that you have ranks in or plan to default on. |
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Sep 28 2012, 12:41 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 27 2012, 01:58 PM) It's potency is related to how many of the skills it affects that you have ranks in or plan to default on. Which again is still better than its previous incarnations. In SR3, if your character isn't a stay-at-home decker, stay-in-the-car rigger, or pure face, you're getting Enhanced Articulation. Period. An extra die for Stealth and Athletics is pretty good and all, but FFS it was an extra die to every combat skill as well. That alone was worth the cost of the magic attribute loss. |
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Sep 28 2012, 11:30 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (Abstruse @ Sep 27 2012, 08:41 PM) Which again is still better than its previous incarnations. In SR3, if your character isn't a stay-at-home decker, stay-in-the-car rigger, or pure face, you're getting Enhanced Articulation. Period. An extra die for Stealth and Athletics is pretty good and all, but FFS it was an extra die to every combat skill as well. That alone was worth the cost of the magic attribute loss. I assume that by better you mean that it more balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Losing access to combat skills with it would make it worse. |
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Sep 28 2012, 11:42 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 28 2012, 07:30 PM) I assume that by better you mean that it more balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Losing access to combat skills with it would make it worse. A very wise man once said that game balance is a myth, and anyone who convinces you otherwise is a pornomancer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 28 2012, 11:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 28 2012, 07:42 AM) A very wise man once said that game balance is a myth, and anyone who convinces you otherwise is a pornomancer! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Of course. Every good game will have bad choices to make. |
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