Improvised Melee Weapon: Metahuman Body, is it what I think it is? Options

[Makki]

It's on Arsenal p.17. Two interpretations here:

a) A troll picks up a human by his foot and wields him like a chain. This I think wouldn't use Unarmed Combat, as the table suggests...
or is it
b) the attacker tackles/rams/hustle/bumps into the defender with all his weight?


this leads to a few more or less stupid follow-up questions:
c) can I enchant a (dead) body for a weapon focus?
d) For the sake of using Adept Powers like Killing Hands/Distance Strike/Elemental Strike is this the same discussion as with Hardliner gloves, because using the Unarmed Combat skill doesn't neccessarily mean I'm doing unarmed combat?
e) In case said attacker has his speed augmented (e.g. Movement power), would it be reasonable to adjust the DV according to the Ramming Damage Table SR4A p169

[Glyph]

It's on Arsenal p.17. Two interpretations here:

a) A troll picks up a human by his foot and wields him like a chain. This I think wouldn't use Unarmed Combat, as the table suggests...
or is it
b) the attacker tackles/rams/hustle/bumps into the defender with all his weight?

It is a). There are already rules for b).

this leads to a few more or less stupid follow-up questions:
c) can I enchant a (dead) body for a weapon focus?
d) For the sake of using Adept Powers like Killing Hands/Distance Strike/Elemental Strike is this the same discussion as with Hardliner gloves, because using the Unarmed Combat skill doesn't neccessarily mean I'm doing unarmed combat?
e) In case said attacker has his speed augmented (e.g. Movement power), would it be reasonable to adjust the DV according to the Ramming Damage Table SR4A p169

c) If you can use a dead body as a vessel, no reason you couldn't enchant one, I suppose, although it would be very impractical.
d) Common sense would say adept powers would not apply.
e) No, because if you allowed it for using a metahuman body, there would be no reason not to allow it for someone charging with a sword or his fists, either. There are already rules for charging.

[Stahlseele]

Uhm . . improvised Weapon Metahuman Body is for throwing only right?

[hobgoblin]

Nope, there is a metahuman body entry for both improvised melee and ranged.

[Stahlseele]

interesting o.O

[Xenefungus]

What's especially interesting is that the damage is flat out based on Body. So it doesn't matter how strongly you throw a metahuman as long as it is a troll with BOD 15 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

In the cynism that dumpshock is so proud of, we decided that ork babies would be the perfect throwing weapon.

[FuelDrop]

In the cynism that dumpshock is so proud of, we decided that ork babies would be the perfect throwing weapon.

well, we need to think of this dispassionately. Orc babies are compact and have a relatively high body, so are an excellent weapon for the throwing adept who dumps strength. They're also more concealable than troll babies, so are more or less your daily carry weapon whereas troll babies are your heavy weapons.

[Stahlseele]

No, we decided ork babies come in big litters and are thus cheap and easy to aquire in addition to the Body Bonus.

[Xenefungus]

Perhaps its also possible to throw only bodyparts? Artificial ones? As in BOD 15 Troll-Cyberhands? Guess that counts as "action that only depends on the modified limb" indeed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[The Jopp]

Hmm...

Cybertroll
Exchangable Cyberlimb
Skill: Clubs [Cyberlimb +2]
Grabs left arm in right, wields as club.

[FriendoftheDork]

People here actually think ork babies have the body of an adult human?

[Xenefungus]

Counter question: You think a BOD 1 adult has the same body as a baby? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Udoshi]

Hmm...

Cybertroll
Exchangable Cyberlimb
Skill: Clubs [Cyberlimb +2]
Grabs left arm in right, wields as club.

You don't need to be a troll for this. The damage code is for hitting someone with a Metahuman's Body.

That is, you just need the trolls arm, it doesn't have to be your own either.

So just buy a troll sized cyberlimb and pimpslap people with it.

[ShadowDragon8685]

People here actually think ork babies have the body of an adult human?

Counter question: You think a BOD 1 adult has the same body as a baby? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Actually, I'd say that they're like small animals: they don't HAVE a health track, any box of damage kills them. Of course, that doesn't necessarily matter if you're hucking them as weapons.

I'd say that they have a BOD score of 0.