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post Apr 22 2004, 08:16 AM
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Btw- You missed:

- IE : Harlequin, Tir Tairngire, Tir Na nOg, Imago, Black Madonna (novel), Harlequin's Back, Worlds Without End (novel), SoNA
- Corp War : PoaD:Dunkelzahn's Secrets, Blood in the Boardroom, Corp Download, Corporate Punishment

and the minor:

- Here there be Dragons : PoaD:Dunkelzahn's Secrets², DidS2 (German release), Survival of the Fittest, Dragons of the Sixth World
- Rise of the Otaku : Denver boxset, Virtual Realities 2, Matrix, Target: Matrix
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post Apr 22 2004, 12:52 PM
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Thanks, I added them with credits. I also realized I forgot the space race metaplot (M&M², YotC, WotC and T:WL) and Corporate Punishment and Wake of the Comet in the books list.
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post Apr 22 2004, 11:01 PM
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Would you count Psychotrope, Technobabel, and the very tertiary discssion of them in Aztlan as relevant to Rise of the Otaku?
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post Apr 22 2004, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ Apr 23 2004, 01:01 AM)
Would you count Psychotrope, Technobabel, and the very tertiary discssion of them in Aztlan as relevant to Rise of the Otaku?

Maybe for the novels, but I never read them so I can't really tell (time to go hunting for summary on the web). From what I remember of the Aztlan SB, some otaku shows up, but we don't really learn anything about them, so I wouldn't count it. If you intend on playing a campaign based on the Otaku, that ain't a landmark.

EDIT: after a check, yeah, the two novels should count.
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post Apr 22 2004, 11:16 PM
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Psychotrope has fallen into the Hell of Apparent Non-Canon Literature, unless you subscribe to the logic of MPAIT.
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post Apr 23 2004, 12:31 AM
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What is MPAIT?
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post Apr 23 2004, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (Nath @ Apr 22 2004, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0 @ Apr 23 2004, 01:01 AM)
Would you count Psychotrope, Technobabel, and the very tertiary discssion of them in Aztlan as relevant to Rise of the Otaku?

Maybe for the novels, but I never read them so I can't really tell (time to go hunting for summary on the web). From what I remember of the Aztlan SB, some otaku shows up, but we don't really learn anything about them, so I wouldn't count it. If you intend on playing a campaign based on the Otaku, that ain't a landmark.

EDIT: after a check, yeah, the two novels should count.

Well, I meant more along the lines of the discussion the cabal is having re: Leo and the otaku in the chapter where they speculate on the Aztechnology board members and a possible AI, and wow... Is that random and grasping at threads which may not exist. IOW, I'm an idiot.

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post Apr 23 2004, 01:08 AM
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Shouldn't the Rise of the Otaku also include RA:S, Brainscan, and Threats 2? I think Aztlan does count, too, but only just.
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post Apr 23 2004, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (Dax)
What is MPAIT?

Multiple Personality AI Theory.

Anywho, I already summed up the Otaku/AI/Crash of '29 metaplot in my Echoes File.
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post Apr 23 2004, 01:25 AM
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Yeah, but the vampiric otaku child of a megacorp director turned empress of Japan is kewl!

Actually, I did like the backstory for Red Wraith. Dark Father was cool, too.

And I agree on the Renraku books. T2 is on there, though.
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post Apr 23 2004, 05:15 AM
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Quick formula if you want to know what date something happened in the metaplot: Take the publishing date, and add 59 years and 6 months. In most cases, this gets you the date in the Shadowrun timeline (fudged a month or three backwards or forwards as needed).

Just as a postscript, I love the metaplot and probably wouldn't have gotten into Shadowrun without it. It's probably the only game world that moves in real time (one year in the real world = one year in the game world) and at the time I got into it, it was one of the few game worlds that had a detailed metaplot (except BattleTech, another FASA product and my intro into RPGs).

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post Apr 26 2004, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE (Abstruse)
Just as a postscript, I love the metaplot and probably wouldn't have gotten into Shadowrun without it. It's probably the only game world that moves in real time (one year in the real world = one year in the game world) and at the time I got into it, it was one of the few game worlds that had a detailed metaplot (except BattleTech, another FASA product and my intro into RPGs).

Battletech ran at 1:1, too, 1040 years ahead of real time, except for the disjunction produced by the 20 Year Update, which just jumped everything up to 1060 years ahead of real time. That seems to have fallen apart since the release of Clickwarrior, though.
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