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Nov 12 2012, 08:51 PM
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The back-up plan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
Okay, that does clear things up a bit. There is no general rule, to my knowledge, that covers the effects of industrial chemicals other than the sidebar. (The sidebar on p. 80 in fact says that "it's impossible to cover all of the possible uses" and tells the GM to wing it.) My interpretation of the original sidebar you mentioned is that the effects of chemicals are left up to the GM, and the listing is meant to serve as a good baseline to move up or down from.
The line about household chemicals suggests another option--instead of poisoning someone, they are trying to get intoxicated. This can be seen in kids who drink hand sanitizer because it is highly concentrated ethanol. With that, I'd suggest listing out a few of the compounds that apply directly to your purpose and the various chemists, nurses, and doctors can weigh in on their effects in the body and try to convert that to a game mechanic. If you're the GM, it gives you a feel for how everyone else is playing. If you're the player, it gives you something to take to the GM and springboard the discussion. |
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Nov 12 2012, 09:44 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
The ones I'm most concerned about are probably freeze foam, because it's so damn useful on its own, and adhesive/solvent, since they're so cheap and legal. Since they're Rating-based, it seems pretty clear how they work according to the rules: Inject/Ingest, Immediate, Power 6, Penetration 6, Damage and Nausea. But what kind of damage?
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Nov 12 2012, 10:02 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
The ones I'm most concerned about are probably freeze foam, because it's so damn useful on its own, and adhesive/solvent, since they're so cheap and legal. Since they're Rating-based, it seems pretty clear how they work according to the rules: Inject/Ingest, Immediate, Power 6, Penetration 6, Damage and Nausea. But what kind of damage? I would class those particular compounds as Physical Damage, in my opinion. *shrug* |
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Nov 13 2012, 04:08 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
I can see adhesive/solvent as Stun, not Physical. Eating paste, anyone?
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Nov 13 2012, 06:02 PM
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The back-up plan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 |
Depends on the adhesive again--paste versus super glue. Also was it injected into the person or ingested.
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Nov 13 2012, 06:32 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Depends on the adhesive again--paste versus super glue. Also was it injected into the person or ingested. Exactly... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Paste is generally considered non-toxic (ingestion), SuperGlue not so much. |
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Nov 13 2012, 08:07 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
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Nov 13 2012, 10:19 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Keep it civil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/extinguish.gif)
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Nov 15 2012, 06:01 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Excuse me for using his own phraseology to respond to him. I will attempt to be more civil in the future.
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Nov 16 2012, 06:08 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Excuse me for using his own phraseology to respond to him. I will attempt to be more civil in the future. QUOTE 1. Personal attacks, flaming, trolling, and baiting are prohibited. This includes any form of racism, sexism or religious intolerance. Take this as a reminder (all of you). |
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