 Montreal 2074 is out!, Because former Canada needs more love!!! |
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  Dec 18 2012, 10:53 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465  |
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Dec 18 2012, 10:55 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
Oh Southpark, why are you what springs to mind when I hear Canada
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Dec 18 2012, 10:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,717 Joined: 23-March 09 From: Weymouth, UK Member No.: 17,007 |
Why did I giggle when I saw you post this.
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Dec 18 2012, 11:46 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
It indeed does. Is former Canada one state of the Union, or two, btw?
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Dec 19 2012, 12:20 AM
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Former Member Group: Members Posts: 814 Joined: 15-July 12 Member No.: 53,042 |
QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Dec 18 2012, 04:55 PM)  Oh Southpark, why are you what springs to mind when I hear Canada Blame Canada! |
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Dec 19 2012, 02:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Brazil Member No.: 15,955 |
I liked the pricetag. I just wished it was a little meatier on the pagecount (21 pages?)
PDF products should be cheap, on my book, stuff you could buy on a whim. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I would buy them like CANDY. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 18 2012, 05:46 PM) It indeed does. Is former Canada one state of the Union, or two, btw? That's a far more complex question than you might think, and it was talked about for Dirty Tricks quite a bit, for the UCAS section. I need to fire up my PDF and see what the final choice was, because I actually don't remember. Ack. |
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Dec 19 2012, 06:12 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Asking because it sure USED to be more than one state, and the canadian remnants are pretty far apart. Of course, whether the snippets of Canada's midwest would be sustainable as a state (whether there's actual population), I am not sure.
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Dec 20 2012, 12:26 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
As of this morning, it's #2 on DriveThru's Best Selling list! Thanks everyone!
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Dec 21 2012, 03:36 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,755 Joined: 5-September 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 9,313 |
Just had chance to glance over it but so far a nice write up and good to have an update on former Seraphim.
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Dec 24 2012, 11:16 PM
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Keeper of the Timeline Maps Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 21-December 10 Member No.: 19,243 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Dec 19 2012, 08:12 PM) Asking because it sure USED to be more than one state, and the canadian remnants are pretty far apart. Of course, whether the snippets of Canada's midwest would be sustainable as a state (whether there's actual population), I am not sure. From the territory and the five maple leaves on the UCAS flag it should be Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Prince Edward Island. Saskatchewan would be another candidate. (My musings on this in German: http://www.shadowhelix.de/Diskussion:Unite...merican_States) If the actual territory left is amenable enough (climate-/infrastructure-wise) the non-Indian population driven from the lost portion of the states could be concentrated in the remaining parts. That would probably be enough to sustain as a state. Either way I never researched if this is plausible.One more excellent opportunity for clarification squandered by the Sixth World Almanac, I might add. If Dirty Tricks shines light on this I would also be very interested to know. |
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Dec 25 2012, 03:42 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (lokii @ Dec 24 2012, 05:16 PM) From the territory and the five maple leaves on the UCAS flag it should be Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Prince Edward Island. Saskatchewan would be another candidate. (My musings on this in German: http://www.shadowhelix.de/Diskussion:Unite...merican_States) If the actual territory left is amenable enough (climate-/infrastructure-wise) the non-Indian population driven from the lost portion of the states could be concentrated in the remaining parts. That would probably be enough to sustain as a state. Either way I never researched if this is plausible. One more excellent opportunity for clarification squandered by the Sixth World Almanac, I might add. If Dirty Tricks shines light on this I would also be very interested to know. There was actually quite a bit of back n forth about Dirty Tricks and "Which parts of Canada are there, anyway?!" Trying to figure out the proper five was a pain in the caboose. |
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Dec 27 2012, 07:08 AM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,077 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
The only part of Canada for which I can find direct reference in a political context is Ontario, in Conspiracy Theories, page 156: "Vice President Martin was the governor of Ontario... kept Ontario as the most livable and prosperous state in the UCAS [after the Crash.]"
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Dec 27 2012, 05:02 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (lokii @ Dec 24 2012, 07:16 PM) From the territory and the five maple leaves on the UCAS flag it should be Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Prince Edward Island. Saskatchewan would be another candidate. Newfoundland would be a better candidate than Sakatchewan.
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Dec 27 2012, 06:26 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,077 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
Yeah, there's only a tiny corner of Saskatchewan in the UCAS. Most of it is in the Algonkian-Manitou Council, with the northern bit in the Athabaskan Council.
As a side note, seeing what part of old Canada is in the Athabaskan Council, that country should be swimming in oil money. |
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Dec 27 2012, 06:51 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
IIRC, there's a company called Athabascan Oil in SoNA and NAN. So yes, they seem to be.
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Dec 30 2012, 09:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129 |
I'm just curious... have the writers who worked on this PDF ever been to Montreal? I haven't read it, yet, so as I said, I'm just curious. It's just that usually, things concerning Quebec in SR seem to be written by people who either use source material from 1960, or Wikipedia.
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Dec 30 2012, 11:02 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
I am the author and I've live in Montreal my whole life. That being said, keep in mind I have to keep some things consistent with established cannon.
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Dec 30 2012, 11:16 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129 |
QUOTE (Backgammon @ Dec 30 2012, 06:02 PM) I am the author and I've live in Montreal my whole life. That being said, keep in mind I have to keep some things consistent with established cannon. You just made me a happy guy! Merci beaucoup! |
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Jan 3 2013, 11:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 30-July 09 Member No.: 17,450 |
I just got through reading it this afternoon and I only had one minor quibble. It would have been nice for the stats at the end book to include [suggested] language ratings (at least for French and English) since being Francophone is so very important in this city. I know it's not hard work for a GM to decide what language(s) a particular ganger can speak, but having the info there can go a long way toward reminding GMs who the players can and can't understand.
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Jan 3 2013, 11:51 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
They all get the Bilingual quality and speak each at Native.
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Jan 4 2013, 12:05 AM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
For a lot, that would indeed be the case.
There's no real clear cut way in regards to what group speaks what, aside for some exceptions (like the Freres Chasseurs, obviously) |
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Jan 5 2013, 05:58 PM
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Keeper of the Timeline Maps Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 21-December 10 Member No.: 19,243 |
QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Dec 25 2012, 05:42 AM) There was actually quite a bit of back n forth about Dirty Tricks and "Which parts of Canada are there, anyway?!" Trying to figure out the proper five was a pain in the caboose. Okay, what did you come up with?QUOTE (CanRay @ Dec 27 2012, 07:02 PM) Newfoundland would be a better candidate than Sakatchewan. I always forget it, because according to NAGNA it is part of Maine. But I guess that could either be retconned or it could have become a state when the UCAS were formed. From SoNA and The Forever Drug Prince Edward Island also does not appear to be a UCAS state. So Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Newfoundland? |
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Jan 5 2013, 09:15 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,757 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
According to Dirty Tricks, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Ontario, and Saskatchewan.
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Jan 6 2013, 07:32 PM
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Keeper of the Timeline Maps Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 21-December 10 Member No.: 19,243 |
Thanks a lot. So finally I could finish this overview map: http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/File:Overv...UCAS_states.png Newfoundland is part of Maine. I put PEI together with New Brunswick. I use NM (North Missouri), SM (Seattle Metroplex), NV (North Virgina) and violated the two letter postal abbreviation in the case of FDC (couldn't think of a better solution).
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